Followup. 2008 Z06 Battery Draw Problem

So much for those that thought I was full of crap when I said Carfax was worthless. They are in the right business though, used cars always have used car salesmen and flimflam men. By the way Carfax does guarantee one thing, and that is that they make money.

Good to see you hook up with an honest dealership of should I say a desperate dealership?

Keep us posted on your new ride.

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I wouldn't go so far as to call it worthless - I was able to see ownership and mileage history on my daughters Firebird to see who owned it, where, and when the miles were put on it, and by who. So it does have its uses.

Of course as this case demonstrates, it's no guarantee that a car hasn't been twisted like a pretzel.

Venger

And somehow that lets you know the Firebird wasn't "twisted like a pretzel", that was in his post? I can show you today a 2 year old G6 Pontiac that had both ends smacked hard enough to bend the body cage and it will go on the road with a clear title and no Carfax information about the wreck.

Any body man worth his salt can do the job if they choose to, any time they want, and it's legal, in some cases shady but legal. All that for a car that isn't worth fixing in the first place in this case.

Carfax is worth very little as the last owners name and address is on the title or in the dealers records and all you need to do is call them or go ask them about the automobile. Any reputable car dealer will help you get that information free, without Carfax. The Carfax data is only as good as the information chosen to be put in the data base for any car, war, murder, ponzi scheme, and horse trade.

I think you need to dial down the hostility a notch, and dial the reading comprehension up a notch. Were you to do that, you'd see that I was agreeing with your point, as this case proves that a clean Carfax is no guarantee that a car has not been twisted like a pretzel.

I don't doubt it, and did not dispute it.

I found mine useful for what it gave me - totals of mileage and where the car had been owned. Whether or not I can get that information from the dealer (as if a car dealer is a trustworthy Oracle of impartial and accurate information), I can also get it from the Carfax, so its utility for me in this matter is fairly inarguable.

Venger

It appears that the dealer knew they sold you a car that had been wrecked. So, when confronted they had no option but to make it good. Had you not had the tip from the service person, you might never have known. At least someone was honest. In sum, if they can take you for a ride they will and it does not matter whether the dealer is selling Chevys or Toyotas.

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Is what Carfax gave you all of the facts? You know that the dealer you seem to distrust are the people that load the information you paid for? We seem also to be arguing the fact that you may well have gotten less than you paid for. As long as you're happy and the seller is happy there should be no problem. Right Spud?

Ok, you guys. The manager of the Chevy body shop told me he has nothing to do with Carfax. He doesn't provide them information. He presumed it was the insurance company or DMV. Well, if the lady that wrecked the car doesn't fill out the DMV accident form that is required by law, well guess what, Carfax doesn't know. Also, if she wrecked the car on the first or second day after purchasing the car, it's not even registered yet.

So far I'm very happy with the new car. From Modesto to Fresno averaging

Ed

And I'm sincerely glad you are. That was a strage story indeed.

However, I'm sorry you didn't get to bond properly with the 1st one. Adopting a Corvette is to me a commitment. :)

Having owned my 1968 since 1978, I'm very saddened that the major retrofit and overhaul it's about to get is likely the last time it's coming apart (at my own own hands) in my lifetime.

To say I'm very attached to that car is an understatement. There are times I love it, and times I love to hate it.... but never a time that I'd consider ever letting someone else own it. It was my first posession as an adult - and it will be my last. The first ten were *all* for fun.... (evil grin) The next 20 were utility.... This time it's for my legacy..............

-W

I was buying a used cross-over to haul stuff around - in the $20K range. Salesman said it was a one owner car and I proceeded. Later checked CarFax and the one owner was a car rental agency. Told the dealership the deal was off - they protested but relented. The words "disclosure" and "misleading" had some impact.

Bob BLUE C5 Virginia