Do you charge customers for hours you spend practicing?

Oct 22, 2026 Last reply: 41 seconds ago 4 Replies

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smckay

I lean toward defining the service package by the required correction level rather than a strict time limit. If you're doing basic maintenace, you charge a flat rate, sure. But if you're working on heavy swirl removal, like that nasty spider web pattern on an older clear coat…

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Did a full detail for a customer this weekend and lost track of time in the worst way. Started with the interior, got picky about the vents and seat seams, then moved outside and ended up claying the whole car before polishing panel by panel. Ten hours gone. The paint came out glassy and the customer was thrilled, but I sat in my driveway afterward wondering if I just worked for minimum wage.



Here's my real question though. How do you all handle it when you're still building speed and skill? Do you quote a flat price and eat the extra hours as tuition, or charge hourly even if it makes the invoice look scary to someone who doesn't know what goes into a proper correction? Part of me thinks the extra time was on me, not them. Another part thinks the results speak for themselves and the finish should be priced accordingly. Curious where people land on this, because I keep going back and forth.


I lean toward defining the service package by the required correction level rather than a strict time limit. If you're doing basic maintenace, you charge a flat rate, sure. But if you're working on heavy swirl removal, like that nasty spider web pattern on an older clear coat, the job inherently takes more effort and time. It’s not just about the clock running; it’s about the complexity of the prep.

I remember working on a client's darker grey sedan last year. We had to get down to a single stage compound using a Griot Masters polish, and that required four full passes on the machine just to break down the oxidation. Once the surface was properly prepped, the final buff took another couple of cycles. That went way over my initial estimate of four hours. My approach is to quote a tiered service: basic wash and gloss, medium correction, and heavy correction. The heavy correction price reflects the fact that I might spend eight hours on one car, or only four, depending on the damage. If a client wants to go over the initial quote, I explain that they are asking for a higher level of finish, which is priced accordingly. It prevents me from feeling like I am basicly working for gas money.

It’s about managing expectations. If the paint is already perfect, I should probably charge less. If it needs heavy cutting, the higher price is justified by the labor and the specific compounds I use to get that deep gloss. The results definitely speak for themselves, but they need to be priced for the work involved.

My approach is always centered on scope of work and setting expectations before I even pull up. I don't think just deciding to charge hourly is the answer, beacuse that makes the client feel like they are being put on trial. Instead, I categorize services into levels. For example, a simple exterior wash with a foam cannon like the Meguiar's Gold Class takes one pricing tier. But if the customer wants those deep interior steam treatments and meticulous paint decontaminating—which requires hours of wait time and specific chemical dwell times—that moves it to a much higher tier. I write that tiered package up and get signoff before starting. It eliminates that stressful moment of thinking you worked for minimum wage because it’s pre-agreed. If the job exceeds the highest tier, that is when we discuss adding an extra day's labor cost. It keeps the conversation proffesional rather than reactive.

I agree with the tiered service model, but I think the deciding factor is the initial inspection. If you don't know exactly what you're dealing with before the car even enters your bay, you're just guessing at the price and labor. When I started seeing cars that needed more than just a glaze, I realized I needed a quality paint meter. It made the difference because it gave me hard data on clear coat health right away. That meter told me when the damage went beyond what basic maintenance covers, so I could set the right price tag from the start, instead of spending ten hours wondering if I should have charged more.

I agree with defining the service by the level of correction needed rather than the clock. If the work demands deep cuts to remove serious damage, the price needs to match the labor. I had a client whose car had heavy iron fallout from a long winter. I spent most of the time soaking the clay bar solution and treating the patches untill they were totally gone before even touching the machine.

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