1993 Caravan OH console on a '92...?

You can't blame Alldata for that. That's the individual shop's policy to strictly observe flat rate contrary to common sense and ethics. Otherwise, on a given procedure, alldata would have to come up with a list of all permutations of job combinations. There has to be some place for the shop's discretion and common sense in adjusting things accordingly. Those that use flat rate as an excuse to commit fraud (possibly not legal fraud, but certainly ethical fraud) are ones that I would choose not to do business with.

The proper charge is R&R water pump - it includes the belt - as any honest mechanic would do it.

Don't know about Alldata, but Mitchell on Demand - the other one I was trying to think of, there ARE combination charges listed.

As there are on most factory flat rate manuals. But the guy reading the manual still needs to have (and use) a brain.

Every garage I have ever used for major repairs, always assumed a water pump swapout was part of a timing belt change, and quoted it that way. Not many people keep a car long enough for a timing belt change, and those that do usually know why they should be changed at the same time.

I just wait till mine break, usually at the edge of the middle of nowhere, at 5:00 in the afternoon, on a Friday...

Good thing I have non-interference engines...

You know that. I know that. They DON'T know that I know that! ;)

And I don't! I took it to an hourly shop that charged me $180, including the belt and the pump!

Problem with that is, if they run itno a problem you pay the hourly rate. The best ones are the ones that do the flat rate for the one most expensive job. If it runs over, it's on them. If it goes stunningly well, they make out.

In article , wws wrote: I would go to a boneyard, and cut your own connector from a 91-95 and match up the wires. Most yards are have a good selection of these vans (T&C, Voyager and Caravan) get it before they crush them.