Well, probably not, but I can't say for sure (The sheer terror, ya know).
The side to side sway was scary enough. If he'd tried to avoid any size
rabbit, for example, we would have most likely rolled over on a side.
I looked under it a couple days later and he had coil over boost springs in
the back with tires a little bigger than stock and the stock front sway bar,
i like the SRW as well, but there are advantages both ways. i like the tire
size options i have with the SRW and ours is definately easier to park at
the mall than our DRW. the advantage of the DRW comes apparent when youre
towing a trailer weighing more than the truck. ive pulled our trailer with
both trucks and the DRW truck definately controls it better. its not that
the SRW doesnt control it....it just doesnt control it as good as the DRW.
Nate.. just one of those "logical" things that usually don't meet with reality,
but I've always figured that the best use for a DRW was for things like a
slide-in, where you have more of a tendency to sway from being kinda top heavy..
We saw a nice rig on a recent trip... 3/4 ton ford with a huge slide in that
raised and lowered like a popup.. cab height when on the road...
The guy said that he drove offroad a lot and between high center of gravity and
cross winds, he got rid of his old slide-in and got the "popup" one...
He was pulling a 20' fishing boat with an atv rack on the trailer..lol
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This one looked like you could sleep in it, from what I saw when he popped the
back door... it was like a cab high topper when down...
Damn thing probably cost more than a new truck, though..
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Nate I had a slide in cab over camper that I carried around for for
about 10 years in two different trucks. One being a Dodge Cummins 2500.
Never had a problem with control. Mine was only a 8.5 model that
weighed in about 2900 pounds fully loaded. They just take getting use
to, keeping in mind your center of gravity and height clearance. Couple
things I discovered was make sure you have quality sway bars front and
rear. I used the skinny hydraulic shocks that connect from the cab to
the front door jam/fender area. A lot of people say you don't need them
and they didn't want to drill holes in their truck but it takes out all
that forward bucking bounce a cab over can sometimes give you. Forget
about the airbags in they rear...... they simply didn't work for me.
Instead I went with Helwig progressive overloads. What I did was have
extended shackles made up so that I could remove the shackles when
empty, thus giving me the factory ride because with the Helwigs on while
empty it will beat you to death. I didn't use the Helwig for the
overload capacity but for the benefit of taking out any sway and they
worked great for that. In your case with a 3500, you're in better shape
than I was. In addition to hauling the camper around I pulled my boat
on most trips which weighted in about 3,000 pounds. Sounds like you are
talking about a 11 or 12 foot slide in but I think if you took a hard
look at the 9.5 or 10 foot model you will be surprised at the room you
have in them, especially if they have a slide out dining area section
which wasn't available when I had mine. Todays slide in campers are
build much better than when I had mine and the center of gravity is much
lower in them now. Probable over 90% of the cab over campers going
down the road are overloaded but that is the nature of the beast, I know
I was most of the time.
I don't recall what they were named or called. take a look at the truck
at the top of the picture here.... http://www.lancecampers.com/ . See
the long shocks connecting the overhang to the front of the truck.
All the air bags done for me was give me a harsher ride when unloaded.
You can pump them up to increase payload but think about what you are
really doing. They are nothing more than hard air spacers between frame
and axle and nothing to cushion a rut or pot hole when you hit it hard.
Besides just when you don't need it they will blow in a turn or
start a slow leak that you can't patch and you will be going down the
road like a crab. I just didn't have any faith in them for the long
haul. The springs that Nosey mentioned should work well, especially if
you leave the camper on 24/7 but I took mine off all the time and by
simply removing the four separate end shackles on the springs I was back
at stock ride and the overload springs were still bolted to the axle.
Worked for me.
Then the 8.5 foot or even the 9.5 foot model would work well for you.
I left the Timbren springs on all the time. When the truck is empty they do
not have any effect on the ride. I actually forgot they were there. I didn't
think to remove them when I sold the truck.
If I may . . . I suggest you look at AirRide Technologies. The most common
cause of air suspension failure is a leak in an improperly installed line.
Helper bags can be deflated to a couple pounds of pressure just to avoid
I don't need to look, I'm speaking from actual experience. I've bought,
installed, and used them. They did not perform up to expectations or
as advertised. Anything subject to dependence of air to operate/perform
are subject to leaks....... like a tire, no lines there. Why take the
chance when you are miles from nowhere out in the boondocks.
Steel springs break too and that I've experienced.
Give me a bit more info because there's a lot of folks here in Moab with
airsprings that have not had any problems.
What did you drop them (PSI) to when unloaded? Was the problem just a
stiffer ride? What pressure did you inflate them to? Where they the proper
size for your load?
Budd, how many trucks of your own have you used air bags on while
carrying a slide in camper? No, not some National Guard story or some
forklift, but your own personal truck and camper. My truck wasn't a
2500 as I mistakenly said but actually a 1989 D250 4x4 with Cummins.
Maybe they work better today......... Maybe they would work on Nate's
truck with the longer wheel base and longer rear springs but they didn't
work for me then. I really don't need to diagnose why as I found out
what did work and posted same. Then again if you have a lot of personal
experience with your own truck and your own cab over camper you might
shed some light to those that desire to here your story.
Ok, none, for very long. I was given an eight foot cab-over slide-in that
needed major repair before using. Even as an empty shell, it made my stock
suspended 79 D-150 sway a bit. I never got it finished as we decided to move
to Utah. There, happy now?
I am offended by your comment about my using all my experiences to aid
others.Why can't I?
I have driven friends rigs, however, with airbags and with other spring
assists . . but wait, that's not admissible, is it?
Same load range. Personally, I think you had a better suspended rig for
heavy usage that the newer designs. Btw, that would have been a "W"-250.
And I was trying to get info that maybe someone else might find useful,
that's all. Since you do not wish to share info that could help someone,
that is your decision. And, btw, Firestone bags are used on many, if not
most, semi-tractors today. They must work pretty darn good.
Ok, Jerry, I see your point, I think, and I don't think not too much of it.
I think all our experiences are useful to someone at some time, somewhere. I
do try to use only the ones that have an application to the topic discussed,
like the hydraulic clutch on the forklift and the hydraulic clutch on the
truck. Similar system, same operation, differing vehicles . . .kinda like
talking about one on a Dodge pickup and a Peterbuilt dump truck . . .if it
Poster still believes that intelligence, logic,
common sense, courtesy, and religious beliefs
are still important in our society, and might include
them in his posts.
Because you don't have any so why attempt to show other wise.....
No it is not. I have driven a couple 18 wheelers for friends for a few
miles. Doesn't make me a OTR driver now does it.
Better suspension when fully loaded yes. Required use of a kidney belt
when unloaded. Airbags made it worse when unloaded.
> btw, Firestone bags are used on many, if not
> most, semi-tractors today.
And none of them go off road onto trails such as Nate said he needed
them for. Besides their main use in that application is to level the
load, not more load or control of a top heavy camper. Apples to oranges.
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