Suddenly, without warning, PeterD exclaimed (6/30/2010 4:55 PM):
Well, I told 'em I wasn't willing to pay it, and went elsewhere, my old
shop is charging me the same price for the oil change, tire rotation and
balance as the new shop wants to charge just for the oil change.
"Bill" is not happy with me, I hope that doesn't mean my truck's hosed
the next time I bring it there for service, because I like the work done
and it's very convenient, but not if I'm going to pay something like $50
more for those three basic services.
I would only caution that:
The guy that owns the shop, pays the employees etc, has to make a profit, or
else he is going to close the door.
Sometimes it seems un worthy of spending x for x, but when he cant do y for
you, because he is not in business, you MIGHT wish you had. I live in a
small town 35 miles from a real city, people keep driving to the city to
save 5%, then wonder why the little town cant seem to support any "real"
businesses? DUH! LOL. I hate that we lost the hardware store for a while,
you had to drive 35 miles to get stupid crap like keys made, bolts, crap
like that. another one finally opened and yes it is a tiny bit more than
the city, but hey I don't lose an hour driving there and back getting a
rubber washer for the hose and crap like that...
Lastly and yet conversely, Some places are using Synthetic Blends some
places use totally synthetic, I get 8000 miles with my oil in my little
commuter car, that I have these guys do full synthetic in. it is $55 or $60
I think, to get that changed around here. 25-35 for normal oil I think.
Lastly some "business models" charge more for "pickups" even though one of
my cars, holds more oil than one of my pickups (mightymax/d50 pickup), so go
figure. My shop guys don't do the car vs truck thing, but 6 quarts are more
than 5, but not labor wise.
Suddenly, without warning, PlowBoy exclaimed (7/1/2010 12:49 PM):
Both these shops are in "big city" areas and get plenty of business, so
my situation isn't the same...
As for the synthetic, that's possible, and I'll have to ask. I'm also
getting the idea that the price of synthetic varies wider than I'd
thought, so will have to ask on brands as well.
Mighty Max, eh? Silly name for a truck, IMHO, but I owned two (1988 &
1991). Loved 'em. Recently crossed paths with the guy who bought the
first one, it had been on the road for at least 15 years before he lost
track of it (he sold it to a friend after owning it 8 years). I was sad
to sell it, but we were going overseas and couldn't afford to bring two
vehicles. When we got back I bought the second.
And FWIW, I change the oil myself on both trucks. So there :)
That is cool, that you had one, I wish I could find a 91 or 2 that had
everything this 87 has. I think back in 90 my buddy actually had the diesel
version 4x4, that would be nice now. My son got the "honor" of his first
vehicle being my 87 long bed D50, I usually say mightymax because I have
seen people not get it that this was before the Dakotas... I loved that
little PU, rode rough but I had AC, powersteering, and cruise, what else you
need right? It still runs ok, should have about 100k on it, I bought it
with less than 70k 7 years ago. I don't think I like Mitsu-engines, one day
it smokes next day it doesn't. I dreamed of the Conquest/TSI engine swap
when I 1st got it. but then again it was the only vehicle I had after major
If you cannot change your own oil, turn in your truck. If you are so busy,
important, or make so much money that changing your money is not cost
effective, then just pay what the man wants.
It's that simple.
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Suddenly, without warning, default exclaimed (7/1/2010 1:51 PM):
Oh, bullshit! I'm perfectly capable of changing my own damn oil, I just
choose not to. If I choose and can afford to pay someone else to change
my oil, then I can damn well do so, no matter what some prick on the
There are other reasons. Like living in a townhouse community where the
HOA disallows any auto maintenance.
I have no problem paying for it, I'm just not going to pay ridiculous
prices for the privilege.
Troll, crawl back into your hole.
Pays to have a thick skin on Usenet.
There's nothing like doing it yourself if you want it done right. I
was at Walmart and figured it was a good chance to get the oil
changed. They immediately try to sell you on a bunch of stuff - air
filter, chassis lube, tire pressure, clean the interior, etc.
I sprang for the extra cost of synthetic and chassis lube. The oil
did get changed - hopefully it is synthetic (at least the lifters
clatter a bit when starting - the usual sign of synthetic) but there
wasn't a bit of lube on the chassis that I could see. Even if they
didn't clean the zerk fittings there should be some grease on them. I
won't go to Walmart again. Then the idiot tries to tell me that I
didn't pay for a chassis lube - until I bring the invoice to him.
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (7/1/2010 7:19 PM):
Ok, that may have been a bit over the top. Still, the sentiment remains
- telling me to get rid of my truck because I choose not to change my
own oil is pretty ridiculous. I changed the oil in my own vehicles for
a couple of decades, if you must know, and will probably again once we
move back to the country.
Well, hell, yes. The man should change it for free, and give you the oil,
too. Don't they know who they're dealing with here?
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Suddenly, without warning, Steve B exclaimed (7/1/2010 8:54 PM):
Oh, now you are trolling! When did I say I wanted it for free? Fair
market value is fine, and if it turns out that some synthetic is priced
that high, fair enough, but I can't afford to pay that much, so I'll
still go to the less expensive guy. Why is that such a horrible thing?
You said you wanted it for free when you went off on this rant about how
high the prices were. If you were a normal consumer, you would have done
the dirtiest nastiest thing you could do, and that is to take your money
elsewhere. Oh, wait. You did that. You just had to come here and piss and
moan about it.
Either change your own oil, or pay someone. Just quitcherbitchin. Oh, I
forgot to ask you. Are you male or female?
That would explain the ability to piss and moan at the same time. That's
why females have two sets of lips.
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