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I was responding to your response to BT in which he (BT) said: "Transferring money from one person or group to another person or group does *not* spur the economy. True wealth can only be created by the sweat of one's brow, both personally and nation-wide. Paper shuffles do not do anything of benefit to the economy as a whole." and you replied, in part, that "Sure it can...Someone who just hoards their money under a mattress does nothing to increase wealth. So moving money from a place where it isn't working to a place where it can work, definitely benefits the economy as a whole." There are some people who would take that to mean, and who actually think about the economy in terms of, property damage actually creating wealth (they equate stimulating the economy with creating wealth) even though you may not have actually said that. In fact, in economics, this type of fallacious thinking has a name that is given to it - I forget it exactly, but, in the field of economics, it's commonly referred to as the "shop keeper's broken window" or the "jewelry store owner's broken window" (or some similar phrasing) mentallity, and is used to illustrate the fallacy of certain false principles.

Sorry if I insulted you by insinuating that you might think that way. I was just waving off others who might misinterpret what you were saying and falling into the common misconception which only seems to be the same as what you were saying but in fact is not. 8^)

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

Touché. ;)

mike hunt

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Corning got pretty close though. Built too much fiber-optics capacity during the dot com boom. I believe they have a empty shell of a plant on the NC coast if they haven't unloaded it yet.

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Somehow you got my meaning exactly backwards, I think. I'm not sure because there is something wrong with your first sentence. There seems to be a word missing between "rather" and "placing". Re-edit and sent it again and let's see if it will make sense.

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Better yet, throw the head of McDonalds in jail for endangering the public. Now THAT would get their attention!

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Why would I "not" say that? Talking to you is like shouting at a mirror, kind of. Stuff comes back to me, but different.

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Typical airhead thinking. I suppose if McDonalds handed you a jar of nitroglycerine and said "have a nice day", it would be your fault what happened next? Different only in degree, not in kind.

I'm sure you'll laugh and think "what an idiot", but pause and think about the concept. The company is putting a product into the hands of the public which can cause moderate to serious injury, without a warning or caution of any kind. Lawsuit city, well deserved.

You're making things way too easy for your critics. If I indeed ordered a jar of nitrogylcerine without knowing how to handle it, that would be my fault not McD's.

You saved us the trouble.

If that's the case, then it should legally be required to take an IQ test before you are allowed to order a cup of hot coffee to go (back to the nanny state to protect - literally - idiots from themselves). But you'd think that if someone could own a license and drive a car to the drive thru that they would have the IQ necessary to know that hot things are, umm, hot, and that hot things will, umm, burn you if you spill them on you without you having to be told same.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Umm, coffee is supposed to be, umm, hot, not umm, dangerous. It should not, umm, send you to the umm, hospital if you umm, spill some.

As umm, dumb as they were, McDonalds now umm, gets it. Why don't umm, you?

You are a convoluted piece of work, that is for sure. Your posts make you appear to be one who simply likes to be heard, without regard to the veracity of your statements.. We will concede that a McDonald's store most likely has one or more of the degreasers, or other chemicals available on the market, to use in cleaning but I doubt they have nitroglycerine on the premises that might be accidentally dispensed to a customer. Please keep posting, we in the NG's can benefit from a good laugh on occasion during a slow day LOL

mike hunt

Bill Turner wrote:

So you are you that guy that started litigation with McDonald's for being the cause of your obesity. LOL

mike hunt

Bill Turner wrote:

moderate to serious injury, without a warning or caution of any kind.

Does anyone, with any common sense at all, need to be warned that coffee is hot? or that putting a cup of just brewed coffee between your legs while driving an automobile is stupid? Do I need to put a warning at the bottom of my driveway that warns it is steep? Do I need to put a warning sign on my lawn that says "grass is slipperery when wet" just in case it rains and the mailman decides to put my mail on my porch?

Give everyone a break already. Everyone knows we are slowly eliminating Darwins theory. We protect the stupid and give them large monetary awards. The gene pool is slowly being diluted by people that should have left this world long ago.

I know that there used to be a place downtown here where they had awnings over the sidewalk and they'd blow warm air down. I THINK it was the natural gas company or maybe the electric company.

LOL, the worst part is I can see that happening too.

Why, the public chooses to go to McDs. They can choose to not go there. I'm reminded of the case where the 2 obese kids sued McDs for making them that way and the judge pretty much said they had a choice and they continued to eat there and that their lifestyle contributed to it.

How's that any different from people selling tools?

If you're too stupid to not know how to handle it then don't use it. Same goes for coffee and nitroglycerine. There is an inherent danger in things. If people wanted to they could hurt themselves with chapstick!

Your link didnt work (for me anyway), but I can see it now: A few years from now, every pencil sold will have a little safety warning that you have to sign and give back to the merchant saying that you understand not to stick it in your, or another person's, or an animal's eye because it can cause blindness (actually that would only happen if you poked both eyes out, but when it comes to protecting yourself from legal actions, it's OK to overstate your case - you can't be too careful). Either that, or you'd have to have training and receive certification in the operation of a pencil before you could legally buy one.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

Bill, that is really a stretch to go from what BT and I said to suggesting we were advocating property damage!

I wasn't insulted as much as confused as to where you created that theory from given what I'd written. I hadn't even implied causing intentional damage, I simply said that putting idle money to work can benefit the economy.

Matt

Only if you consider Concord, NC to be on the coast. :-) And I don't think it is empty, just idle.

Matt