>
> >>> >>> Troll no, just know a better car when I see one. Not one bit of info
> >>> that was given in response to this question, is bogus, and is a
> >>> readily known fact that Ford has a recall on these motors for head
> >>> gasket problems..so I advised him. Not any freaking time was anything
> >>> said to sway him to Toyota, so bite my freaking ass Marc. you like
> >>> your freaking Ford products, I like Toyota, the fact still remains
> >>> they have had transmission, motor and various other problems with the
> >>> very year of vehicles ranges he asked about. A used car with little or
> >>> no warranty would be a c hance and you dam well know it. $1,400 for a
> >>> A/C compressor replacement? Double that for head problems, you know
> >>> it. $1,200 for a power seat track assy, $489.00 for power motor for
> >>> windows, $390, for a smart switch, and now they even have a recall on
> >>> the headlight switch. I would suggest the prospective buyer checking
> >>> the list of recalls on this vehicle, and see what has been done, and
> >>> what has not. . Its very common knowledge these model years bring
> >>> lower value on the lots for just this reason. You are just so dam
> >>> bumned out as your stuck with your low quality Ford prodcut, you can't
> >>> stand it.
> >>> now bite my ass again Marc, see what quality tastes like, its as close
> >>> as you'll ever come to having any!
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:52:43 -0500 (CDT), snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (Mark
C.)
>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Dave, this Foxeye person is a Toyota troll who is very biased against
> >>> >Fords. Please wait to hear some other opinions before making a decision.
> >>> >I do not have any personal experience with Tauruses, but my brother had
> >>> >2 Taurus wagons and he says they are good cars. I would have no qualms
> >>> >about buying one.
> >>>
> >>> The opinions expressed are mine, and mine alone.
> >>> My wife had no input whatsoever.Remove www from
> >>> email for correct address. Never trust a rocket
> >>> or motor company from "Claremont Calif"
> >>> NAR #70031
> >>
> >>
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> > Having been a longtime Toyota mechanic I can vouch for them having > >been, historically, a superior product to most American manufacturers > >-but also commanding a premium price, particularly on the used market.
> >
> >I now own my 4th and 5th Ford products - all purchaced used, 1 sold at
> >240,000km, one sold to a friend who took it over 300,000km, one
> >scrapped at age 16 years due to body rust, and the current 2 being 11
> >and 17 years old - the 17 year old Ranger with 313,000km on it and
> >totally trouble free to date.
> >
> >I've purchaced them all for half or less what I would have had to pay
> >for a Toyota of the same age, mileage, and function.
> >
> >I'm not complaining.
>
> Our fleet where I worked had hundreds of Lumina's and Taurus's and
> they were fairly trouble free. I know that of the ones assigned to
> the group I ran we never had any significant problems with any of
> them. We just drove em till their time was up (which was often way
> past 100K) and sent them to be auctioned and got new ones. Sure,
> every brand has it's problems but I find it interesting that the Ford
> Head Gaskets seem to be well known to the Toyota fans yet they seem
> completely oblivious to the more or less same problem that affected
> Toyota's V6 a few years and was the subject of a recall. Similarly,
> they act like they never heard of all the sludged up Toyota V6s that
> Toyota blamed on the owners not doing oil changes even when the owners
> showed all the receipts from the Toyota Dealer for the oil changes
> they did. Then there were the Toyotas that had electric problems that
> caused the "lock" power to remain stuck in ON position and preventing
> the trapped owners from opening their door... while the lock motors
> overheated and set fire to the doors!!!
Of all the cars I've owned over the years....
Olds was the most trouble-free and luxurious, but hardest to work on.
Fords' my choice for best all round & least trouble except whining power steering pump (Ford stocked replacement whines as well) and A/C compressor failed early (expensive fix).
Chevy 300 small block best engine around, always had to rebuild trans at
70K miles, A/C compressor ice cold never failed, chain broke at 225K miles, also elec windows got off the track easily early on and difficult open up the door panels and get them back (take to a pro for this).Toyota was good least problem of any car I've had. But price is too high these days.
Mitsubishi (DSM) mixed feelings - good running but repeating problems with computer/sensors/wiring after 70K miles. I'd say this is a good hobby car for someone who likes to spend hours under the hood.