My dad is going to need a new vehicle soon. He's leaning towards an F-150.
He's looking at one now that had a 5.4, auto, 4x4, XLT, half-cab thingy with
rear seat, 6 3/4' bed w/ bedliner. ~25,000 miles (or was that 35,000?) and
asking $21,500 IIRC. Anything to look out for with these trucks? How are
these new fangled 'mod-motors'? Are they reliable? Is the rest of the truck
reliable and solid? Does that seem like a good price for the truck
described? Comments? Advice?
Well, i dont know.. let me do some research..
"Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on..."
- someone over on RAMFM... oh, wait! That was you wasnt it?
and ask there.
That's for someone who intends to do any and all work the vehicle may need
on his own. I personally can not afford to have someone work on my car, and
even so. The times I _have_ had paid a shop to work on it I've been
disappointed or frustrated with the quality of work most times. My dad has
little interest in working on his own car. I showed him how to do a tune-up
but that's about as much as he seems to want to know. For anything other
than that he takes it to a shop. For those that aren't into cars as a hobby
and can afford to pay others to work on their car, that's good for them, and
gives people jobs. For those like myself who can't afford it and would
rather do the work themselves to be sure the job gets done right and to our
own standards for quality, I'll do it myself.
I've owned two Expeditions with the 5.4L Mod Motor, 1
Mustang with the 4.6L Mod Motor, and my mother has had two
Grand Marquis with the 4.6L Mod Motors. Here is a list of
the problems and repairs:
1) '97 Expeidition - 1 alternator at 85,000 miles; 1 Coil
pack at 106,000 miles (probably due to a leaking heater
hose). Traded truck at 147,000 miles - was running strong.
Used 1 quart of oil in 5000 miles if driven hard.
2) '03 Expedition - No repairs at 64,000 miles. Does make
piston slap noises on cold morning cold starts after sitting
overnight. Dealer say it is not a problem. I don't like it,
but can't really associate it with any problems (no oil
usage, mileage same as ever, pulls strong, runs smooth and
quiet after first 45 seconds. In fact I test drove three
Tundras that all made much more noise on a cold start, so
maybe I am being too picky.
3) '01 Mustang - minor oil leak repaired under warranty
(manufacturing defect). No other problems, but traded at
40,000 miles (insurance cost with teenageer driver in the
household was outrageous)
4) '92 Grand Marquis - no failures, traded at 80,000+ miles
5) '00 Grand Marquis - no failures, still driving with
approximately 50,000 miles
My only advice would be to do a cold start on a cold mornig
and listen for piston slap. Don't let the guy selling it
warm it up before you start it. If it makes the piston slap
noises, you might decide it is not a problem, but at least
you will know. Comapred to most of the engines in the other
vehciles I have owned, the modular motors have been average
to slightly better than average. Worst vechile I personally
owned was a Toyota (Oh, What a feeling). In comaprison to
other vehicles owned by immeadiate family members or close
friends, I'd say the mod motors are in the top 25% in terms
of reliablility. Certainly much better than the three
Toyotas I have been associated with. Far, far better than
the VW products (2 VWs, 1 Audi) owned by family members. I'd
rate the Honda owned by family members as the most reliable
(one set of spark plugs wires for two Honda over 14 years
and 180,000 miles). About the only Ford engines more
reliable were old Ford 302s and ford 300 sixes
(unfortunately no longer available) and the 3.0L OHV Vulcan
V-6s. My Father has had good results with the various
Rangers he has owned - two 2.9L, one 2.3L, one 3.0L, and one
4.0L over the past 22 years - one ignition module and one
radiator covers all the engine related repairs for all those
Rangers (approximately 400,000 miles total). We have had bad
luck with every Chrysler we ever owned, although the engines
weren't the major problem area. We still ahve a 32 year old
D600 with a 318. It did have to have a couple of fuel pumps,
a head, and new main bearing so that it could limp into the
21th century (with only 100,000 miles). I think it has about
reached the end of it useful life, but only becasue the body
to falling off from rust. The onyl other vehicles I have
personal knowledge of were one Mazada 626 (horrible), a
collection of British sprots cars (all horrioble but
lovable), a a 4 cylinder Saturn Vue (good - no problems so
far at 25k miles).
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