According to the auto manufacturers, it would not make economic sense to
convert a vehicle to E85 because you would have to replace most of the
fuel system components. However, if you can obtain the parts at
extremely low or no cost (midnight auto parts sales?) it might be worth
Group: alt.autos.gm Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2006, 3:42am (EDT+4) From:
Fire firstname.lastname@example.org (Jonathan)
I'm no whiz on E85, but it seems to me that such a list would be pretty
extensive, and include such things as installing stainless steel fuel
lines, replacing every gasket and seal and rubber fitting from the fuel
filler to the tank to the fuel pump to the fuel injection pump to the
injector lines. Add to that the recirculation and vapor lines and
cannister. Maybe someone here could also verify if such things like
intake manifold gaskets and throttle body gaskets, etc. would need to be
replaced as well??? I don't know.
I do know that if such a conversion was easy and cheap then there would
already be kits for it, and maybe even one directly from the vehicle
manufacturers - but there's a lot more issues than just a few seals and
new programming (including legal - there are rules against tampering
with your emissions systems). Just the differences in the motors from
the factory are significant enough to make me think that such a
conversion wouldn't be cheap or easy. Add to that the fact that E85
doesn't get nearly the MPG that gasoline gets and I think that eats into
any fuel cost savings as well.
Cheers - Jonathan
Okay, here' s a silly question......
Has anyone come up with any vehicle-specific parts lists that contain
ALL of the fuel system components affected adversely by E85 fuel? I mean
ALL the components that would need to be replaced and/or modified in
order to run E85 in a vehicle that predates the fuel? I imagine that
this list would include all sorts of parts like gaskets/seals, maybe the
fuel pump, fuel filters and other assorted fuel delivery components. Any
ECU reprogramming, or will that happen automatically?
If the fuel is cheap/plentiful enough in a particular area, some
enterprizing person may be able to make a profit by generating such a
list and supplying the necessary parts in some kind of a conversion kit.
If the change-over could be done cheaply enough (maybe as part of a
repair or normal maintenance) one might be able to save a few bucks in
the long run by being able to switch to the cheaper fuel.....
Any thoughts here
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