I dont need to learn anything about this bill, and I cant believe you would respond in such an ignorant way. Now businesses can donate to campaigns at essentially unregulated levels..
If you have a point, make it, but dont just spout crap.
I dont need to learn anything about this bill, and I cant believe you would respond in such an ignorant way. Now businesses can donate to campaigns at essentially unregulated levels..
If you have a point, make it, but dont just spout crap.
You have to look at it this way.
$5000 to each of 400 representatives is only $2 million. Since government can taint the process to one companies favor or another, well
- cheap buy.
Say I was evil ultra-mega super rich and had $10 billion in one of the failing banks. I would gladly pay $2 million to assure my $10 billion was safe. Now say you have "connections" or some control to 25 corporations, and it is tax deductable. 26 * 5k * 400 is a lot of bribe moneys. Right under the radar too.
You know the $10 billion is safe. I am sure Obama has his reasons he cares not to discuss to us why some banks got help and others did not.
Wrong. They cannot donate to campaigns at all. They may state their opinions, but not give one thin dime to a candidate.
Read the decision, is my point. You clearly have been listening to Obama, not reality.
Yeah, but this is like saying "Who runs the nuclear aircraft carriers?. Nuclear engineers."
Y'know?
-- Les Cargill
But they can spend millions on TV commercials is my understanding. Same thing the candidate would do with the money.
And if you can trash an opponent, true or not, this can influence an election as people get their information from TV these days.
I recall that Nixon won an early election (not for President) by trashing his opponent with untruths... (Detailed in one of the biographies on Nixon - A book - Not on TV.)
This is the decision of the Court.
I still say it is a way for big money interests to buy a candidate.
If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
(Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote, then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a corporation is NOT a person!)
not give one thin dime to a candidate.
Correct.
Nope, its much less likely to be properly coordinated with them doing their own commercials.
as people get their information from TV
But arent necessarily stupid enough to believe everything they see in an election TV commercial.
opponent with untruths... (Detailed in
Yes, those who wrote the consitution did not allow for that.
If you dont like that, amend the constitution again.
ALL the supremes said was that the CURRENT constitutional amendment prevents the govt from controlling how corps advertise on TV.
Of course it is, and if you dont like that, campaign to amend the constitution.
Corse you will have to do that in the face of corporate TV advertising opposing that.
If you dont like that, blame those who wrote that constitutional amendment that did not have the forsight to predict that downside of their very swingeing wording they chose to have.
But hard to lynch a corps now tho.
certificate, passport, and register to
Nope, you cant get birth certificates for corps.
You wont even get the birth certificate.
We, the lowly citizens, cant even get our elected officials to look at term limits, real campaign finance reform, etc.
And, no, I dont like the fact that our government is effectively steered by lobbyists representing big money groups.
We tread along the tightwire of the law, sometimes, but I feel that the intent for government by, of, and for the people is being hijacked.
It is all about money and power.
hls wrote
not reality.
that did not have the forsight to predict
limits, real campaign finance reform, etc.
Hardly surprising given that they are dug in now.
Blame that on the farts that wrote the constitution.
Then set fire to yourself outside Congress or sumfin.
"Or sumfin" sound better to me.
A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".
It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
So you admit to being a liar?
Are you serious???? That's just idiotic.
You mean corporations are *forcing* you to vote for their politicians? You know, corporations cannot vote, so someone is voting them into office.
You don't like the likes of the Sierra Club either then?
Of course it is. Use yours and stop whining.
Not even that. Pure fantasy.
Right. Thay cannot donate to campaigns. But they can run all the ads they want for or against any cantidate, at any expanse. Which gives them the same undue influence.
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