Not good idea
Not a good buy
GM is loosing more millions on vehicles in the US than any other
vehicle manufactor in the world
They lose about $1000 on each vehicle sold
You would be in huge debt for the dollar
Mike Hunter wrote:
At least half of that was earned tax free in the US, on vehicles assembled
of low cost imported parts. If GM and Ford did not have to pay federal
corporate income taxes and could get all of their part made in China and
other low wage Asian countries, they too would as wealthy. ;)
Toyota Motor Corp. trounced the domestic automakers in the U.S.
marketplace last month, posting a 25 percent year-over-year sales
increase. General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG each saw their
sales slip by a few percentage points
Not quite, the percentages where not year-over-year sales but for September
2006 sales over September of 2005. GM sold the most vehicles during
September 2006 and Ford was second, both at much higher totals than Toyota
Fords car sales were up, but their truck sales were down, vis a v September
of 2005. Percentage are always relative, for example Tundra sales were
indeed up twenty some percent over September 2005 to a total of around
12,000 for the month. Ford an GM truck sales where down a few percentage
points, but Ford sold around six times as many F150s, over 72,000 and GM
sold over 60,000 Silverados for the month. Dodge sold far more trucks as
The trend is clear Toyota is leading the pack
If you don't make the system now, as Toyota continues to make hybrids
much cheaper and in greater numbers, the others won't be able to
German pondered that hybrids could reach 50 - 70 percent of the
market in 10 years. He added, "I live in Detroit. I don't want to
see the Big 3 go out of business. But that's a possibility."
GM is on its way out
Mike Hunter wrote:
According to the WSJ Toyota higher profit per vehicle can be attributed to
the $1,400 less than domestics manufactures that it pays in wages and
benefits to it employees in the US, for every vehicle it builds the US.
Seem to me that says a lot about the people willing to pay an average of 20%
more for a vehicle, that is on average no better than others and cost less
to build. They apparently are not very astute consumers. I must admit I
was once one of those that did, but I wised up several years ago an switched
back to domestics ;)
The Scion and Element are uglier.
As for the Camry, it was on my list of "possibles" to buy in the next few
months. The new style took it off the list. Sides and back are ok, but
that bulbous front grill turns me off. Nope, it won't sit in my driveway.
Why do you believe GM should drop down to the level of a Camry? GM already
offers several V6 cars, under 30K, that can be driven home for thousands
less than the drive home price of an underpowered 4cy Camry. ;)
a) it's a Toyota
b) the Toyota 4-cyl is almost as strong and doesn't sound like a bucket
of bolts like the small Chevy six (2.8 based POS's)
I've got a lot of respect for the 2.8 family but I haven't seen a 2.8
based engine that didn't sound like ass. You can tell them coming from
blocks away because they all sound like they're going to blow rods
through the pan.
Mike Hunter wrote:
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
Wow, what a typo. I kind of came across sounding like an idiot there.
I meant to type, I have a lot of respect for the *3.8* family.
makes a lot more sense if you read it that way.
Nate Nagel wrote:
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