Re: worst made cars on the road

Apr 12, 2010 37 Replies


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> =A0The 2004 Sienna was tops in road safety tests. =A0
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> "The biggest surprise on the list, given recent automotive news: It
> includes no Toyota (NYSE: TM) made vehicles. In fact, Toyota reported a
> 40.7% gain in sales last month over March 2009; its Lexus division was
> up 42%. (Generous buyer incentives greatly contributed to those
> numbers.) And although Consumer Reports has removed its "recommended
> pick" distinction from Toyota vehicles involved in the current recall,
> many analysts are standing by their previous assessments of Toyota's
> well-made products.
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> "Toyota and Lexus both were fairly steady on their quality" in the
> dependability report released last month, says Dave Sargent, J.D.
> Power's vice president of global vehicle research. "Toyota has both good
> quality and a high consumer perception of their quality -- so Toyota is
> very much in line."
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"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"



I love Mark Twain!


"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-S*it"

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

I love Mark Twain!

*****Samuel Clemens was clever. Toyota and Lexus are still very good cars.

all of them. NHTSA is designing uncomfortable, unattractive, and grosely over expensive automobiles for Manufacturers. Together with the EPA they are destroying the Industry and Americans capability to afford an automobile and the fuel for them. It is no accident they are doing this now. Have you sat in the new midget seats with headrest that force your head inot your chest and press your spine toward the windshield, and flat hard bottom boards for the seat bottoms???? How many thousand dollar or more air bags is in your car? How do you like being forced by empiral edict and threat, of taking food, from your table, if you don't wear an aggravating belt, across your body. How about the lie that it saves lives? There are as many killed by the belts as "saved?" How about the permanent chaff marks across your left shoulder and neck? How about the brick with pillows at each end design of all cars? I hear they are going to force us to wear argyle socks too.

Not good for smart or down-to-earth people like Mark Twain.

I never knew NHTSA designed cars. I thought the car companies' engineers did that. Thanks for the correction.

That doesn't make sense. The EPA is requiring higher mileage for cars. That means less fuel burned. That will extend the fuel supply. The fuel supply is limited because there is a limited amount of fossil fuels in the ground, most of which are not controlled by the US.

Correct. Congress empowered them to do this. And, a Supreme Court, mostly chosen by Republicans, even said that it is the EPA's duty to regulate Green House gases like CO2.

No. I have great seats. I guess I paid more for my car. Try something new: Save your money and buy something nice.

How expensive is a life saved?

Empiral edict? Or US and state laws voted on by our legislatures?

What lie? Has the death rate per million miles driven been going up or down over the years? DOWN. And part of the reason is seat belts and air bags.

Really? How many people have been killed by seat belts? Evidence (i.e., peer-reviewed research or other reliable evidence) please.

I ride a lot in cars and don't have them.

Even if you were correct (you're not), safety is very important.

ROTFL!

Have a lovely day. I am glad you were able to get your stupid rant out of the way today!

I don't know if Twain was so down-to-earth. That wasn't his real name. Either way, he is down in the earth now.

And Toyota is in deep s*it.

I've thought that only through government control and regulation we could accomplish fast, civilized roads like in Germany.

But, of course, I believe they have a government that works. Hey, do have healthcare for all too, both social and private insured.

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