Unless you are a Japanese citizen you can not own stock in or own
a Japanese company. The only thing you can buy on the NYSE is a
certificate, the name of which escapes me at the moment, that is
actually 1/2 ownership of a stock certificate held by a Japanese
citizen for which you pay the price of a full stock that he owns
and on which you receive half of the dividend. They don't all it
Japan Incorporated for nothing
You are free to believe whatever you chose and spend you money
wherever you wish. What Toyota, for example, has actually done
is take 200,000 high paying America jobs, from domestic
manufactures that paid millions of dollar in federal taxes, that
provided good benefits and defined pension plans and converted
then into lower paying jobs in Toyota assemble plants that were
built primarily with state and local tax subsidies, that pay
fewer benefits and offer only 401K pension plans that are half
paid by the employees. The American consumer is the one that is
export their own jobs as well as sending over four billion
dollars annually to Japan tax free. Even Toyota has stopped
saying that their vehicles are American made, because of
complaints to the FCC. Toyota now says in their ads that the
vehicles are assembled in the US of 'world sourced parts.' If it
is ones intend to help the American economy buy only those
vehicles with a 75% American parts content label and a '1' as the
first number of the VIN. Avoid those with a J, K, 2, 3, 4, 5,
This is no different, though. How much IS that tax on the dividends?
That's essentially a small percentage of a smaller percentage. IF
they make a profit, that is, and IF they don't reinvest it or
do other things with the money do dodge the taxes.
Not all foriegn plants are like this, though. Check the UAW
website - a few are made with U.S. union labor.
Buy American - Save our Countries Jobs and its Economy. Jap , Korean ,
China cars have defects in workmanship too. The US Automakers build
xlint cars and the cars mostly exceed imports in quality.
Like the man said in his other posts :
Keep buying Imports cars and goods and the only jobs "YOU" and Your
"KIDS" will have is working at WENDY'S or WALMART. GET READY AMERICA
FOR ANOTHER 1929 GREAT DEPRESSION ..... Say GoodBye to your Jobs !!!
Brian - Las Vegas, NV
If you are interested in helping the American economy buy
American. Vehicles made in the US by American federal tax paying
corporations. Avoid those made in other countries or those
merely assembled in the US of mostly imported parts, like the
Camry, by corporations that pay no federal corporate income
u c c wrote:
Leave it to the American consumer to willfully export the jobs of
their own offspring. Why Americans buy foreign cars, when there
are so many American cars that are just as reliable or more so on
the market that can be had for less money, is beyond me. That is
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:18:27 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
In other newsgroups, people piss and moan about WalMart.
WalMart squeezes out "the little stores"
WalMart doesn't pay their workers
WalMart stocks imported merchandise
Everybody's down on WalMart
except the people who shop there.
I've never been to a WalMart that wasn't crowded with shoppers !
They must be doing something right.
Back to GM and imports.......
No matter how many excuses GM comes up with,
Buick makes a car comparable to the Camry.
Sells in the same price range too.
So, WHY do the majority of shoppers choose TOYOTA ??
A used Camry sells for much more than a used Buick..... WHY ???
All the car buyers can't be stupid.
People's greed is often stronger than their ethics
when their paycheck comes. I've set foot in a Wal-Mart
maybe ten times in my life and never bought anything.
Either it was cheap consumer-grade junk that was below
my standards(which aren't unreasonable, mind you), or
the price was only slightly better than the local smaller
My guess it is because the think Toyota makes a more dependable
vehicle. From what we see in our business, servicing most every
brand, that is only a myth. Today all manufacturer are building
good vehicles. The only REAL difference we see is style and
Your opinion that the Camry and Buick cost the same, is exactly
that an opinion, is not factual. One can drive home a similarly
sized and equipped Buick for thousands less than a Camry.
Further more the Buck will cost a lot less to repair when the
time does come to make a repair and the difference as to when
Just to set the record straight GM sells more car than Toyota and
far more trucks.. So the question should be. if Toyota are so
good why do buyers bay three times as many GM and twice as many
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:07:08 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
And yet Camry outsells the Buick.
Consumers vote with their pocketbooks.
BTW I love my Buick. Best road-car I ever owned.
But I'm still worried about the infamous gasket leak
that GM never fully addressed.
The infamous gasket leaks were not limited to GM. Every
manufacture had gasket problem after the government ordered
asbestos off the market without allowing the gasket manufactures
time to develop a suitable replacement material. The Camry is
indeed the number one selling car in the US but both GM and Ford
sell more car than Toyota and far more trucks. So I guess we
must say consumers DO vote with their pocketbooks and more of
them vote for GM and Ford by far than Toyota. Even Chrysler out
sells Toyota. ;)
Chronic quality problems seem to be happening with many of the major
brands these days. Honda has put zillions of marginal automatic
transmissions on the road and is only marginally better than GM is about
Just read this:
and so on.
Unfortunately, GM isn't the only company which puts marginal product in
the field and then attempts to avoid responsibility.
Lucky me, I have a GM van which has already needed the intake manifold
gasket replace AND a Honda Accord with a chronic leaking transmission.
Must all be User Error, eh?
If your concern is indeed for the 'little' guy you should go buy
a new, not used, GM vehicle. The prices are terrific. Way below
what it will cost you to buy a Toyota. ;)
Johnny Action wrote:
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