My wife recently purchased an automatic 2001 Honda Civic. We took it
to a supposedly very reputable mechanic to check it out during the 30
day trial period. They found nothing wrong. Now it has just stopped
working. Whatever gear we put it into, it acts like it is neutral.
Put our foot down on the accelerator and it whines but doesn't move.
It seems like the engine is not engaging.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
How does the car act differently between park and the other gears?
The only difference between park and neutral is that there is a
mechanism that prevents the drive shafts from turning.
However, this does indicate that the shift lever is connected to the
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:35:32 -0800 (PST), PeterOut
Not sure exactly what is the common failure this might refer to.
But, Honda has had problems with their autos for many years, replaced
many on six-cylinder cars in and out of warranty. My old Acura tranny
never really worked right, and I suspect that was very common, but
since the car still moved, most people (like me) just lived with it.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if there is a much lower statistical
failure of the same tranny technology on lower horsepower cars, and
it's probably still very rare into the 100k mile range, but it might
be just what you've got. The next question would be whether the
seller knew about it ... but who can say?
Unfortunately it is not. We thought we were covering our bases by
taking it to a supposedly reputable mechanic during that period. They
found no problems. Perhaps the next step should be a class action
suit but I am not sure how successful that will be since it was far
from being a new car.
Lotsa luck with a class action suit. You're reading too many newspapers
or comic books. Learn what is wrong with the car before you start
mapping a brilliant legal strategy. The first (and likely the LAST)
question you need to answer is "What warranty, if any, did you get with
the car?" If your answer is "Uh, well, the bill of sale says "No
Warranty, express or implied. Vehicle sold "As-Is"" you are, as they
say in the legal biz: SCREWED!
With no warranty, you have little recourse against the seller. He has
no duty to repair it and you'll find it very difficult to show that he
defrauded you when you already took the opportunity to check it out with
your own mechanic beforehand.
Hell, we don't even know HOW long it's been since you bought the car,
"recently" being a relative term. Nor do we know how many miles was on
the car and is on the car now.
You haven't bothered to let us know of any symptoms which may have been
observed before the fatal "everything is neutral."
I suspect, like others, that the linkage PROBABLY is connected but from
your poor description of the circumstance, it's possible that you don't
know what you're talking about when you say PARK works normally. Does
PARK just lock the ignition and steering wheel or does it actually
engage the parking pawl in the transmission? i.e., when it's in park,
can you push the car? When the car is rolling VERY slowly (you push,
wife works the shift) and you put it in PARK is there a grabbing and
quick stop of the car? If there isn't, it's not going into PARK and the
linkage is again suspect. Even if the interlock works in PARK, I
"think" there may be a possibility that the interlock could work WITHOUT
the linkage to the transmission still being connected and/or properly
Bottom line: Everyone, especially yourself, needs to have more
information before you get beyond having a car that doesn't move.
Thank you for your reply. We bought just over a month ago. It had
92839 miles when we bought it and we have since put about 500 miles on
it, 275 since it was checked by a mechanic. When my wife drove it
yesterday, it was slow getting into gear and then it revved up a bit
when it was in gear. When my son drove it today, it gradually got
progressively worse but somehow he managed to get home in it.
However, when I tried it the gears did not appear to engage at all.
The only gear that did not act like neutral was Park. The car was on
a slight downward incline and rolled with every setting expect park.
When I put it into park, it stopped rolling. My son and I can each
bench-press 200 pounds but we were not able to push it up the slight
incline when it was in Park with the brake off.
Linkage to the transaxle apparently AOK. Get it to a reputable (if you
can find one) transmission shop. Also check at a Honda dealer and see
what they will charge you.
I had a transmission go out on a Buick and the dealership was able to
replace it with a completely remanufactured GM Goodwrench transmission
for less $$ than having it rebuilt by one of the chains or independents.
The best part of it was that they warranty on the on the Goodwrench
tranny was longer than the warranty on the original driveline. (either
50K miles or 60K miles - go figure)
Who knows? Honda may offer something similar. Won't hurt to check.
And the warranty I asked about and you didn't respond to? That's kinda
what I thought.
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