2007 Hybrid Civic with low miles on it and all tanks averaging over 42MPG.
Combo city and hwy miles. Recording each tank and miles driven.
Suggestions to consider:
- Carrying extra weight in the car you don't need?
- Maileage change AC on or off?
- Engine well tuned? Air filter OK
- IMA batteries OK?
- Tires properly inflated?
Might ask your dealer for suggestions as well.
Yeah, is your 83 one of the 2 cleanest cars sold in the US & oh, yeah, does
it have all the modern amenities of a 07? you know, air bags, anti lock
brakes cvt transmission, automatic air conditioning?.....yeah it is green to
drive a car till it drops but, 25 years is a long time to be without
BTW, my "best" mileage has been in the mid 70's for about 50 miles, heck, I
have even sustained 150 for a couple of miles.
Indeed. I forgot that your 1983 Honda is much lighter as
well as having a smaller engine. I think my 1.5L 1991 Civic
is similar in weight to modern Civics, though. Little aside:
I have been driving my Civic in a much hotter part of the
country (Arizona) the last few months, with more city
driving, and mileage is definitely down, but not by too
much. Say from 42 mpg to 39 mpg. I am pretty sure the
gasoline is mostly unmodified here (e.g. rarely ethanol
Well, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call the Civic FE the
"average" car of 1983; I'm betting that most cars of that year (era)
weighed more, had a larger displacement engine, seated/hauled more
Even if you were to narrow down your field of vehicles (like big gov
does when applying the CAFE regulations), the FE wasn't even the
"average" Civic in 1983, was it? Seems to me (and I could be wrong on
this, so forgive me if I am), the FE stands for "Fuel Efficient",
which means it had to have SOME concessions with regard to the
"average" Civic (smaller engine, smaller wheels, narrower tires, lack
of some amenities for weight savings, etc.).
I'm not knocking your car, just validating your argument. The FE was
the 80s attempt at obtaining better fuel efficiency. The hybrids of
today are approaching the same problem from a different perspective.
The important thing to remember is that, whether you agree with one
particular approach or not, the *effort* to improve mileage is to be
commended, not slammed.
If you really want to start a bragging war- I ride my bike to/from the
grocery store= INFINITY mpg (and bikes were invented long before the
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:04:39 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
The FE weighed more than the Civic DX (Higher trim level)
Actually, the FE sported the same features of the 1500 SI including
tach, extar insulation, 13" wheels etc. but had the 1300 engine instead.
I have an '82 Civic four speed as well and that was a very basic car.
The FE is two trim levels higher.
Yes, the 1300 engine was rehashed for '82/83 for the FE and was the
forunner of the 1300 CRX that would follow that boasted very high MPG
The big thing here is that I own the car outright... No banker riding
in the back seat. Also, as I stated in a previous post, it is much more
user friendly when it comes to maintenance and repair. Right now the car
has less than 120K and these were 300K vehicles provided they were
This may well be my last car so long nobody whacks it..
My starts up every time, goes where I point it and is comfortable enough
All that other stuff you mentioned is just making something idiot proof
(at great cost) which simply encourages the production of more idiots.
Oh, and the FE gets a consistent 50+ mph on the highway.
Lastly, it is a car that I still can maintain and repair when necessary
which isn't often. And, it's paid for...
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