well, michelin aren't dumb. they have more money invested in their intellectual property than any other tire manufacturer, bar none. they're not going to just give it away to the chinese and let themselves be put out of business.
the fact that they're based in france and not being sold out by wall street probably helps their decision making too.
That's why I was able to put 120 K miles in my current set of Michelin tires without a failure. I like the brand.
While I applaud your intentions to 'Buy American', you have unfortunately missed then boat.
We don't make nothin' no more. Jon
Reread the original posting. The poster was concerned about taking work away from a US worker - not a potentially reduced made-in-China quality. Granted, most products from China tend to have borderline quality and are typically made under "sweat-shop" conditions, but whining about providing a job to a Chinese worker for a part for use on his Japanese car is quite ironic.
the two go hand in hand.
then you don't understand the big picture. of the two hondas i currently have, one was made in ontario, canada, the other in marysville, oh, both from majority american components. can you name a single chinese company that manufactures in the usa? and when was the last time japan executed dissidents or threatened united states security operations? do you know any taiwanese and know how china systematically undermines their independence? how about tibetan refugees? have you watched japanese political agents bully united states citizens on american streets like i've watched chinese???
don't roll over and take it up the ass buddy. write your representatives and tell them to turn this shit around. no more american taxpayer dollars to corporations that export their jobs to china [g.m.] we need manufacturing to return to the usa. not only is it jobs, it's a matter of national security. if we don't manufacture, we can't either wage a war or defend our allies. if china invaded japan, and that's not unlikely, for how long do you think we could defend our ally? who do you think is going to stop shipping vital components for our systems, or worse, hack our existing systems, to prevent us doing anything to help?
bottom line, shipping our jobs and expertise to china kills us twice - economically and strategically. stop the rot - write your representatives today. they may listen to the money most of the time, but round about now, they're listening to their ability to get reelected. and they'll do whatever it takes - even pay attention to their real constituents.
and do you naively believe the big three Detroit companies primarily use US manufactured parts? And what percentage of Ford & GM cars are actually made (assembled) in the US?
that's my whole point dude. they're importing from china at the expense of american jobs and manufacturing capacity, and at the taxpayers expense! as long as those companies are sucking on the american taxpayers teat, and they are with their lobbying for "cash for clunkers", etc., then they should not be allowed to ship their jobs overseas. period.
now, there is another side to this story, which is that domestic manufacturing has been stuck in the dark ages with great resistance to automation, but the bottom line is that arguments for outsourcing for so called cost reductions by moving to low cost labor markets are bogus. automated plant cuts labor costs as much if not more effectively. reality is, this is about union busting - no domestic manufacturing workers means no unions. and our political "representatives" have had this unspoken agenda for the last 20 years.
now, i'm no union lover. but destruction of our industrial base just so incompetent management doesn't get itself tied up in labor disputes is not simply retarded, it's almost treasonous. again, the "unintended" consequence of de-industrialization extends FAR beyond simple union management - it's killing [killed?] the nation's ability to secure or maintain our economic and military strength.
the german model, where management works /with/ unions, not against them, is highly productive. there are drawbacks, but the net result is that germany has a tremendously strong industrial base, is highly automated, and in reality, has economic and unspoken military muscle that awes. if germany ever wanted to go to war again, it could at the drop of a hat because it has the industrial base to do so, and none of its industrially weaker neighbors could stop it, even if they wanted to. why do you think the germans have been so peaceful these last few decades - they have the biggest stick on the block!
I called you that or worse when I first saw it. Welcome to the 21st century, dude, *everything's made in China now!
Please define "insidious". Your post says a lot about you, you know.
Politicians? How about company execs?
I doubt you rate that highly on their list of Things to Conspire About.
Too late for this election cycle, IMHO.
Dude, take a pill & relax. Lots of countries/people are perfectly willing to do the things you accuse the Communist regime of, and the Tea Party morons running for office are happy to support them by calling for less govt, less regulation, etc. (I'm sure you know the rant as well as I do).
I am of the opinion that if China weren't Communist, we'd hear a whole lot less from you on this topic.
no, their sphincters are twitching right now and they're watching the polls hour by hour. if you /all/ write and they detect momentum, they'll be all over it. write today.
sure, bury your head in the sand.
this stuff is real dude and it's on your back door step. i don't know how much economic loss and how much military threat do you need to experience before you start to understand the reality, but if you don't pay attention today, you'll be forced to pay attention tomorrow.
What a non sequitur ... that's the kind of statement that a bitch would make. Are you really so retarded to think that I was implying that they would have a conspiratorial sales meeting just to deal with ME ? Go back to your video games.
Did you take English in school?
Why are you so *Gung Ho* in trying to come across as an American Consumer, when you are outfitting a Japanese car?
We have three Michelin plants here in Nova Scotia. They are shipped all over the world.
Why are you so *Gung Ho* in trying to come across as an American Consumer, when you are outfitting a Japanese car?
"Did you take English in school?" You asked ... Yes, I did take English in school. My response was to your grammatical wizardry. I quote you:
"You're laughable. You are complaining because you aren't smart enough to know what you are buying for your Japanese car. Are you finished high school yet? "
"Trying to come across as an American consumer"? I'm not trying to, I am. My Honda may have been designed in Japan but I assure you that it was made in the U.S.A. by Honda Corp. of America.
Why does it offend you so, that I prefer to support my country's economy by purchasing products that are made here, rather than those that are made in China?
Look before you leap?
The tires you bought were made in China long before your bought them. Somewhere on the tire it says where they are made? China makes things for American suppliers. So it goes in the real world.
Come back in a few years (or earlier if they fail you) and let us know if the China tires met your expectations.
Some of the things I buy at my local Mart of the Waltons are made in China. When I purchase, I have the choice to not buy the item because I don't like it's point of manufacture. So it goes in the real world.
No need to write anyone. Just don't buy products made in China if it bothers you. Buyer Beware! Check the label. 8-)
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