The ONLY lubricant you should be using is silicone spray. And you need to
make sure you get the spray right down inside the run-channel inside the
door, both front and rear.
If you've been using petroleum-based sprays, you've probably damamged the
No, no, I only used silicone based sprays, both with and without
graphite in it, just as you suggest, but the effect is pretty
short-lived. I was wondering if there was something new out there that's
No, the windows were never broken. What is interesting though that the
passenger side window tends to screech more than the driver side, even
though that one is rolled down less often. But then, the right rear
window is rolled even less, yet that is quiet. But that could also be
because it cannot be rolled down as far as the front window.
Maybe I'll just search for some newer silicone based sprays that work
How much are you spraying in there? I've found you really need to load it
on all around, to the point where it's running out and makes a mess on the
windows and you need to wipe it off. Especially you need to make sure the
parts inside the door are soaking wet with the silicone.
Give it a good soaking and see if that helps.
Well, I'm going to give it another try though I have to be careful not
to drop the thin plastic spray straw (tub) into the run channel because
it cannot be inserted firmly enough into the spray head. If this will
not work I would like to try to use some kind of grease. I wonder if
lithium paste would be good for that.
No lithium grease! Only silicone spray. Lithium will damage the rubber the
channels are made of.
What you need is a really runny, slippery liquid combined with the force of
an aerosol. That's silicone spray.
If the tube won't stay put (a distressingly common problem), hold the tube
with one hand while pushing the nozzle with the other.
If you're really stuck, get a garage to do it for you. It only takes a few
OK, no lithium then but those channels are not really from rubber but
neoprene, right? At least that's how it looks to me and after so many
years rubber would have dried out and became brittle in any case.
Actually that's how I was doing it but it's not very convenient.
First I want to exhaust all I could do myself. I think I also stop by
the Honda dealer and ask from their Parts guy what they have for that.
a lot of the so-called "silicone" spray lubes are just a very small
percentage - the rest is ordinary petroleum distillate, and that's not
good for rubber. same for greases. if you want the real deal, you've
gotta pay. dow "33" is the real deal in the grease dept. and honda
have a special "door rubber" grease, also very expensive.
but before you monkey about with lotions and potions, figure out where
the noise is really coming from. the window level mechanism is full of
levers, rollers, cables and hinges, all of which can squeak if not
originally lubricated sufficiently.
Which is why it might make sense to pop off the door panel and inspect,
clean, and lube from the bottom up instead of the top down. Access is
lousy, but with flashlights, mirrors and an assortment of long handled
brushes you should be able to fix it. If you are careful you will only
have minor lacerations on your hands and a twisted back.
I just stopped by the nearby Honda dealer and the Parts guys pretty much
suggested the same thing with the explanation that accummulated dirt in
the tracks causes the unpleasant noise and using spray, though may help
in the short run, just attracts more dirt in the long run. According to
them, thorough cleaning or replacement of the rubber tracks is the only
long term solution. He also suggested to try cleaning the inside of
those tracks as far down as I can without removing the door panel and
see if that works. If not, removing the panel and do a thorough cleaning
that way, should.
That's a good idea, but difficult to do. The channel goes down below the
door sill about as far as it goes above it, and it's just about impossible
to get anything other than silicone spray deep into the run channel unless
you first remove the window glass.
And that's what Honda tells their dealers too. But again, that's a lot of
work. I've found that a good soaking with silicone spray does the trick
more often than not.
depending on the age of vehicle, it's usually pretty easy to pull the
rubber out with the glass in place, and slide it back also. wind the
window all the way to the bottom, pull the rubber out of the channel at
the top, then the sides, and then pull up so it slides in the slot.
that way, it'll come all the way out. reinsertion is a reverse,
sometimes with a little assistance of moving the glass up and down.
i've done that to multiple civics, my accord and my toyota truck.
of course you do if you've not done it before, but this is precisely why
i said, go to a junkyard and check it out. that way there's nothing
untoward to your vehicle and you get to fully assess the possibilities.
again, the secret is to pull it out at the top, then slide it out from
the sides. it goes back in exactly how it came out.
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