Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions

My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"

After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering kit.

The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.

JimG

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JimG
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You have GOT to check EVERY last bolt that you loosened, replaced or even glanced at. Something is loose. Once you've checked everything, check it again. It might not look loose, but when forces are applied, it's loose. Did you use a torque wrench?

It might, but it won't solve your bad tire balance problem. Fix the problem, then get the HD stabilizer if you want. Also, re-re-recheck your trackbar.

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twaldron

An adjustable track bar won't make any difference. A loose track bar is a loose track bar. You can make the setup you've got work just fine. It's use is to fine tune the centering of the axle. If you have a partner, get them to crank the steering wheel left to right and watch the bar for looseness. You might want to boost the ft. lbs. up a touch to 60 or so, but not too much or you'll twist the bolt in half.

The other th> For some reason my gut was telling me front trackbar. I'm not sure why,

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twaldron

If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...

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Eric

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twaldron

Hah? What was that?

If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same driveshaft. Could cause problems.

Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).

Eric

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Eric

Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of clearance. It buys you nothing.

Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion, which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.

"Fix> Hah? What was that?

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twaldron

TW's comments were right on. :)

Jerry

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Jerry Bransford

We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works. As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle again.

That was my point.....

Eric

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Eric

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twaldron

Hi twaldron (and others),

The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the CV shaft? See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):

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JimG

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JimG

Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.

The easiest way to adjust your p> Hi twaldron (and others),

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twaldron

I can't see the angle, sorry.

What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't matter any more because of that CV.

Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It cuts down on the clearance for no reason.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:

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Mike Romain

YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we "argued" was saying...

And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):"

SHEESH!

Eric ;-)

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Eric

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twaldron

Not yet, I saw today's photos.....

Mike

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Mike Romain

I am in no hurry, plus I want to make sure it's the right thing to do, and the shaft length will be OK. It's been my experience with the CJ's anyway, that those frame nuts break loose from the weld, then you are fishing new nuts up into impossible places. :-(

JimG

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JimG

Here is my theory FWIW:

The orig owner may have first passed on installing adj. control arms and used the drop kit instead, thinking he was saving money. After experiencing some driveline vibes even with the drop kit, he installed the CV driveshaft. JimG might have to buy some adj. control arms to complete the job. Of course, I'm going on one photo that does not show everything (including a drop kit) and a vivid imagination.

So what of it, JimG...do you have any adj. upper c> Not yet, I saw today's photos.....

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twaldron

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