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Lots of Changes for Jeep

The gotcha in the clunker program was the fact that if you got a $4500 rebate for your vehicle from the gov, it is considered income for you and you have pay to income tax on it, like about 30% one financial writer wrote. Also before the clunker deal the very same new vehicle was probably setting on someone's car lot discounted 4000 or so dollars as it was difficult to move it. The clunker program might work for you if you were able to get the rebate and a dealer reduction on top of the rebate then you might have come out ok, even with paying the income tax.

I remember the good ole days when you were able to deduct the interest on your car payments from your income. Not sure when that stopped. Now that kind of program would make some sense!

Larry

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Larry
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That reminds me that I have always been curious about the "no FWD on pavement" proscription. What is the reason for it. I do drive mine

10 miles per month on pavement, just to excercise the systems per the manual, but I keep it to 10 miles unless off the pavement.

Randall, your 1987 Grand Wagoneer, if to factory specs, could have either a NP229 Selec-Trac (standard) or an NP208 Command trac transfer case (optional). The NP229 should have a vacuum-actuating 2WD-4WD switch below the steering wheel.

The NP229 can be driven in 4-Hi 4 wheel drive full time on any surface, and it should say that somewhere in the Owner's Manual.

4 lo mode is Part Time and can be driven on low traction surfaces like snow or gravel.

The NP208 has only Part-Time 4-Hi and 4-Lo. It should never be driven in either 4WD on regular pavement (maybe briefly in a straight line) because the front and rear drive shafts are locked to rotate together. On a curve, either a wheel will slip or something will break.

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Apple2Steward

Thank you, this is very interesting information. I will consult the owners manual to determine which one I have. From your description, however, I believe I have the NP229 Selec-trac, as I do have the "2WD-4WD" switch below the dash on the right side of the steering column.

Just out of curiosity, what, if any, was the advantage of the "Command Trac" transfer case that would cause anyone to order it as an option?

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randallbrink

I see. I was never made aware of this, and it is certainly good information to know. I may do my "10 miles a month" in the winter on gravel roads.

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randallbrink

Larry--My recollection is that the interest deduction went away during the Jimmy Cater unpleasantness.

It is ironic that the $4,500 auto rebate is considered "income" but an $8,000 "First Time" homebuyer incentive is a "credit".

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randallbrink

although the changes for the new 4x4 nowadays are really advanced, I still like to kick it old school. got an old military Willys' jeep and still looking for some old wranglers.

I do have a 4x4 van but don't really use it that much in areas where

4x4 are needed. most vehicles that has 4x4, those that I know off, have never tried going into dirt or places where 4x4 is needed. don't know maybe the car is just too fancy the owner doesn't want to scratch it.
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dexternicholson

Aesthetically, yes. It looks better, but not Jeep-like. Part of the Jeep look is a strict economy of structure in a pre-computer sense. Everything as close to straight stock dimensional metal and sheet metal. No CAD systems to blend curves.

Of course, I think shiny paint looks non-Jeep like. Why is flat olive drab green not a stock color?

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Richard J Kinch

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