Never Thought

yeah well its $1.30 per LITRE in perth Australia...

$1.30 AUD per Liter transulates to $3.76 US /. Gallon. Ouch..

Had to do my convertions to see what it was here on west coast of Canada, $1.18 a litre, works out to guess what, $3.76 US per gallon.

I wonder what LPG is going to cost this winter, or natural gas. They all come from the same source--CO2 in the primal atmosphere. It seems to me, we better get busy putting that CO2 back, so plants can convert it into more petroleum. My wife says it took $29 to fill up the Honda Civic. I guess I don't have to worry too much about her driving my Jeep, my Suburban, or even her Land Cruiser before I get back. A curse from the Dune series, "May you live in interesting times".

They have something over here called a "smart car". It is just big enough to fit two people, sitting up, and I don't know where they put the engine or the fuel tank. I'll bet, if you stepped on the brakes real hard, you would roll end over end a few times. I have seen cars like this with Mexican plates in Silverton, but not quite so small. Even the motor homes are of reasonable size here. I am not going to miss them in Silverton next summer, but I know a few gift shop owners who are going to be hurting for seasonal help. Or maybe the snow birds will have to stay, if they can't afford the gas to get back to Phoenix.

OK, for you chemists out there, if any--What is it going to take, to convert methane or ethanol, to 2,2,4 trimethyl pentane? Enormous pressure, heat, genetically modified bacteria, what?

Earle

You make a good point Bill, the 4% pay raises that the wokers received this year in MD have been wiped out by the high fuel costs and in many cases puts them behind. It is always the poor who end up getting the short end of the stick.

Coasty

The way I look at it is: It will all equal out, the rich will get the ice in the summer time and the poor will get the ice in the winter time.

We might even see a woman or two, turning down the thermostat!

One fellow in Silverton, keeps his house cold, except for the bathroom. The bathrom only gets heat, so the pipes don't freeze. It's amazing what you can put up with, if you have to.

Earle

I fixed that in my house my wife always likes it 75 degrees in the winter so I installed a programmible one abd set it to 69 then pass word protected it. She asked me why I was changing out the thermostat last week I told her it was an energy saving thermostat and reduce our heating costs she said fine. He, He, He some times we just have to win. Coasty

I think my house is usually around 65 degrees ! Except my bedroom which I never heat - I like to breath in cold air, and put on a thicker duvet if necessary.

Although I have heating now, for 10 years after I moved in I just used the fireplaces in this 1835 cottage, with a woodburning cooker (range) in the kitchen that did the hot water. I bought telegraph poles from BT and burnt them, quite cheap at £6-£8 each.

Even now, I have a gas range that does the heating and cooking, but I can turn the stat off and still heat the house by fire, which I actually prefer.

Like you, I prefer a cool bedroom, with more bedding if required, preferably a candlewick bedspread.

Sounds similar - I have a fireplace in 4 of the downstairs rooms, and thermostatic radiator valves in each. So if I put a few logs on, it doesn't switch off the central heating and make the rest of the house cold ! Logs run at about £30 per ton if you are prepared to buy that many and collect them yourself from the estates.

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wag> > I think my house is usually around 65 degrees ! Except my bedroom which I

I think if I get 15mpg in my lifted TJ w/ 33's I'm lucky.... Our fuel miser is a ZJ w/ 5" lift and 31's...man I don't wanna bow down and get a nipper car :(

It's worse here - 96p per litre is ~ $6.79

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ