Paging Nathan Collier about Montanna

Ryder does do one way rentals just try and get them to do a two way rental. I've used Ryder many times and for both one and two way rentals. They cost more butthe trucks are in better shape. However for the mountains unless you have a turbo you are screwed. I'd rent any brad ans long as it had a Turbo diesel. The trouble Nate had was the engine ran out of air in the higher elevations. So if the truck was running rich to begin with it's going to die when the air thins out. The turbo eliminates that problem. I don't know if Ryder has a Turbo Diesel.

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Scooby Don't
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I can't vouch for Montana, but coming to Colorado wouldn't be a real good way to escape from crack heads...

Earle

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Earle Horton

Approximately 9/22/03 13:34, Nathan W. Collier uttered for posterity:

What you need is skis. Current men's record is 155.8 miles/hour which to me is about what you can get up to by falling off a cliff. Seriously on a good mountain, 60-80 miles/hour is not at all that difficult to get up to. 20-40 mph on starter slopes. And the Montana snow is nothing like that wet, packed, slushy crap you find further south. Meters and meters of good powder to break your fall....

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Lon Stowell

Approximately 9/22/03 15:12, Earle Horton uttered for posterity:

There are crack heads in montana. But mostly what you get is outlaw bikers with speed labs, until the law catches up with them.

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Lon Stowell

so i can die even faster! :-)

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Nathan W. Collier

i passed a few areas in my explorations, but it was nothing like it is here.

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Nathan W. Collier

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L.W.(ßill)

Use up much ammunition? :) This is why I think Florida sucks. My sister lives down there and car jackings are like nothing down there. They happen all the time. Screw that. I think in Montana you are allowed to carry a gun as long as it's holstered.

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Scooby Don't

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L.W.(ßill)

According to my Dad who lives down there they are still happening all the time. Almost happened to my sister a while back.

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Scooby Don't

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L.W.(ßill)

No my sister is a consumate firearms hater. But she booted it after being hit and ran a redlight and headed for the cop station. She was lucky many aren't.

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Scooby Don't

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L.W.(ßill)

You've got me, some times discretion is the better part of valor even if you are armed to the teeth. Not much stops them from coming up on both side of the car and shotting you through the backside.

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Scooby Don't

a rhino or ranger are definately for you then. any side by side with a back rest is going to be easier on your back. if you ever spend 12+ hours on an atv trail riding when you try to get off it you end up walking like quasimodo for awhile.

i need to pick one up somewhere along the way. instead of a fear factor i was born with an extra dose of stupid. age has helped some though so maybe theres hope for me. :-)

i agree......sad part is though, ive heard them blaming the atv when it boils down to lack of parental supervision. when a kid is 15-16 they dont need supervision anymore but any younger than that has no business on an atv UNSUPERVISED. my kids ride, riding is a big part of our family recreation, but id never let them venture out alone. while the driver should share the blame (stupid bitch did cross the line and hit them), the kids should have never been there to start with.

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Nathan W. Collier

.......yet the liberals still wont get it.

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Nathan W. Collier

That's right! "It's not the car-jackers fault, someone stole their trike when they were 3..." Sheesh!

Thinks to self... "Let's see... remote control... trigger alarm... shut off fuel pump... deploy both airbags..." I see a market for this!!

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TJim

Approximately 9/22/03 20:06, Scooby Don't uttered for posterity:

Except in a bar, a courtroom, or if memory serves, a bank. Not sure about church or funeral home. You really don't see them on the street that much any more. Back in the '50s it wasn't that unusual to see a rancher walking around in downtown Kalispell with one or two holstered guns...but mostly due to forgetting to lock them up and just leave the holsters. Nobody really paid any attention, even the police. In other words it also wasn't something you saw every day either. Out away from town, far more normal to have a holstered gun when working away from the house on a ranch.

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Lon Stowell

I honestly can't answer that, but if some lowlife is threatening my passengers and I am in a vehicle with a running engine and a bit of room to maneouver, I'd be very likely to see how fleetfooted they are, at least up to the point of rendering them a bit less of a threat almost by instinct. But then I was raised in a rural culture with the rule "first remove the threat, then sit down and discuss your cultural deprivation..."

Approximately 9/23/03 07:49, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III uttered for posterity:

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Lon Stowell

Maybe, but I end up walking like Quasimodo after 2-3 minutes of standing or walking as it is and I mean intense pain. Too bad I can't really get out ad try what I want to buy for a day or more by renting. I'll probably rent a Sled for a couple of days this winter. Hopefully we will have some snow.

I used to really get duffed in the pits, which is pretty much all we had around here until the Nazi's that run the towns and cities, decided that they need to close off all the Pits and make riding in them illegal in a big way. They even shut off an entire street that the Pits were on just to keep people out. The neighbors used to call the cops for every ATV, Jeep or truck they saw in the Sand Pit. That's why I hate it around here. Every place to ride is illegal. Riding alone also conditions you to think if I get hurt bad I'm screwed. I almost always ran alone because of the shifts I worked back then. No cops during the weekday at all.

I used to see parents bring the ATV's to the sand pits and all ride together. But then the cops would come and harrass everyone for trespassing. The peopel who owned the pits really didn't care as I talked to one of the owners sons But the insurance liability if they condoned it could bankrupt them. I left my kids ride ATV's when at their friends house but when I went to pick them up I saw no helmets on and them doing jumps and the like with berms they'd made. I was pissed. They had helmets but they said it's too hot to wear them. When I told the kid's dad who owned the ATV he was 10 times more pissed than I was. But still he was in the house watching TV and having a beer.

This accident was tragic and even if they were just walking on teh side of teh road it would still be tragic. But I remember back in the '70's when I had a Firestone tire that was defective blow out on my rght front. It pulled that wagon all the way over from the 3rd lane to the first lane in seconds. Then into the ditch and fortunately I was ok. But if anyone had been there...... The tire was clearly defective I haven't used Firestones since then. Ever have a ball joint let go on you? Same type of thing. Accidents can happen and kids on ATV's shouldn't be out where they are likely to happen. A car takes a long time to stop from 55+ mph. I haven't heard it she was drinking or if it was a mechanical failure. but I'm certain the parents will not shoulder any of the blame for allowing their kids to be out there in the first place.

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