Speedometer gear shaft

After having 31" tires on my 97 TJ for five years, I finally got around to putting in the correct speedo gear. Or so I thought. I have 3.07 gears so I need a 27 tooth gear. The problem is that Chrysler doesn't make a 27 tooth gear with the correct shaft length. It looks like my only option is the heat gun route. Does anyone have some suggestions on removing the gear from the wrong shaft and putting it back together on the right shaft without royally screwing things up? I'll probably use some epoxy or super glue for extra holding power since I'm not sure how well it would stay together on its own after having been heated.

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Stewie
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One important piece of information which is required is the number of revolutions it takes your speedometer to register one mile. On most modern cars, this may be found on the bottom (or elsewhere) of the speedometer face, usually in very small numbers. Look for something like 940, 960, 1000, or 1020, or something close. This number is the number of speedometer cable revolutions (or equivalent in the case of electronic sender units) to increment the odometer one mile. Most speedometers (modern ones) are 1000 revs/mile, and this is a good starting number to use.

Another vital piece of info is the speedometer drive/driven gear ratios, the gears inside of the transmission or transaxle. The drive gear is the one which is turned by engine power, usually mounted right on the transmission output shaft. The driven gear is the one which is "driven" by the "drive" gear, and is connected to the speedometer cable or electronic sender. The numbers entered in the program are the integer number of teeth - just count 'em up.

For example:

rev/mile: 1000, tire diameter 31", differential: 3.07, drive teeth: 15 (count them on your TJ) will result in a 30 tooth 'driven' gear.

Running the equation backwards keeping everything else the same and using a #27 gear you would have 35" tires.

You can also calculate using drive shaft revolutions/mile (assuming 1:1), axle ratio and tire size.

There are additional formula to use, how did you arrive at 27?

Have you contacted an 'actual' speedometer shop? There should be at least one in any fair sized city. If necessary you can contact one via phone/fax/e-mail.

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Billy Ray

I've run 31's with 3.07 and never got pulled over for speeding, I think the cops may generally give you a 5 mph window or something, around here anyways.

Troy

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Troy

According to these websites and some other postings I've seen by people with my same setup, I need a 27 tooth gear.

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and the equation (NewGear*NewTire=OldGear*OldTire) solving for new gear. This came from
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I'll check out the numbers on my speedo and try your equation, too.

Billy Ray wrote:

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Stewie

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L.W.( ßill ) Hughes III

That is a really nice web page, someone put a lot of work into it.

If your calculations all double check out then I think it might be time to contact another Chrysler (not Jeep) dealer and see if they have the gear you need or perhaps better and cheaper would be an independent speedometer shop. If you live near a big city look in the phone book.

If you need a distant shop I'm sure we can get you some recommendations. . Billy snipped-for-privacy@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)

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Billy Ray

Uh, maybe I shouldn't be using a 27 tooth gear? Maybe I'll look into a speedo gear shop. Way back when I first got my tires, I went to an independent repair shop and they were talking about clipping wires and redoing cables just to adjust the speedometer. Needless to say, I got the heck out of there.

I already have the long-shaft 27 tooth gear. Hopefully the parts department will take it back since I haven't gotten to it with the head gun yet.

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Stewie

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Dean

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L.W.( ßill ) Hughes III

I ran into the same problem. Just got the 31s and I have the 3.07 gears.

Wanted the 27 tooth, but Jeep doesn't make it. I went with the 28 tooth as a 'close enough' solution. I haven't had a chance to check it via GPS or anything yet (I've only had it installed for one week), but It apears to be pretty close.

Pete

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Pete Elton

I'm afraid that I can and for some reason that scares me. Some where there is some bean counter working on the CAFE standards, saying if we lower the RPM we'll get better gas milage.

Dean

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Dean

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L.W.( ßill ) Hughes III

I had the same problem on my TJ. So:

- I bought the gear with long shaft

- Pulled the shaft out of the new long shaft gear

- Took the original gear out of the t/case

- Pulled the shaft out of that gear (which is the short one)

- Carefully inserted the old shaft into the new gear

- Installed the hybrid back in the t/case

I was off by 11 percent and after this surgery, its off by less than half a percent.

Total cost, less than twenty dollars. BTW, the long shaft one with 27 tooth came from a Durango, but it fits a TJ (atleast the plastic gear head does anyway). Hope that helps.

TW

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TW

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Tomes

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