Ah to sit and slumber - a seat question

Okay guys and girls I need your brains and wisdom,

I am 8 weeks away from my Africa trip and some 10000+ miles of interesting driving. I have looked at Exmoor Trim and BLRS and I have decided that i need to change the passenger and drivers seat in my Defender 110 2.5TDI CSW,

1991. However, I really would like something more comfortable than the standard Land Rover seat.

I would prefer to fit second hand ones as I suspect after four months in Africa they will be veryyyyyyyy dusty. I also would like to fit them at a reasonable price.

So here is the criteria - I want to keep the centre seat as one of my daughters will be sitting in it. she loves it. I have four kids and they all want to be sitting forwards. I also would like seats that have rear pockets.

So what seats will fit? I have access to three very good scrap yards.

I don't want any fancy electrics, just comfort. I do not need to have access to the underseat boxes as both batteries are brand new and I can forget them. I have fitted a second battery on a split charge system. I suppose if I really did get a flat battery I could always whip a seat off as I will be carrying a full tool kit.

So any ideas.

Yours

Andy

Reply to
Andrew Renshaw
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Andy Hi,

I am sorry I can not assist you about the selection of seats but may I propose you run a pair of heavy duty wires with a male socket on one of their sides and connect a female plug to the starter battery and leave this femaly plug somewhere within easy reach if need arises?

This way you will not have to remove the seat in case you need to jump start the car.

A twin battery setup does NOT guarantee that one of your batteries, or both of them will not fail you when you need them the most.

And if you have paid for OPTIMA batteries don't be so sure about their quality and several friends on expedition trips have found.

Take care Pantelis Giamarellos LAND ROVER CLUB OF GREECE

Reply to
Pantelis Giamarellos

On or around Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:20:46 GMT, "Andrew Renshaw" enlightened us thusly:

Ford sierra are good. remove all the underpinnings, back to a basic seat with 4x M8 threaded holes. Make plate (3mm steel would be better than the

2mm I used) which sits on the LR seat rails, is screwed down onto them and extends (I forget exactly) about an inch either side with bolt holes to put bolts up into the sierra seat. I think you can get away with having the centre seat still in place, although on mine I moved the outer seats in about an inch each and didn't have a centre one.

The plates on mine were in fact in 2 halves (front and back of the seat, going across from side to side), although one big one would do equally well.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

Saw a thread here a couple of days ago that mentioned Rover car seats, but I can't seem to find it now... Wolverine.

Reply to
Wolverine

Anything will fit if you work at it!

Main criteria is it needs to have a fairly low base else you end up looking out above the windscreen (unless you are a short-arse!)

I have saab seats in mine (as i already had em spare) I had to customise the base to make it lower. I can still fit a centre seat between them. I fixed 2 bits of angle iron onto the sides to bolt them down with. The seats are fixed onto 4 'studs' (long bolts with nuts on fixed through the seat box) that are fixed in place - so to remove the seat i only have to undo 4 nuts from the top and then lift it out leaving the studs in position in the seat box. Works well for the odd occasion i have to get the battery out or access the fuel tank.

My landy came with metro seats in. They fitted alright but I scrapped them as they were disgusting.

Reply to
Tom Woods

I had, until recently, Ford XR3i seats in my 110. Very good side support and the low base required, as mentioned by Tom. Piece of wee-wee to instyall,

1/4" flat bar at front, bolted to seat with a hole at each end to pick up on the landy rails, 1" sq. tube at rear to get the correct base angle for comfort. Just replaced them with some high-backs bought from "tuningleader" on the dreaded ebay, absolutely fantastic! Low base, excellent side support and comfy. Just went from Elgin to the Isle of Mull and did recovery work on the Tour of Mull Rally and never once got a sore back or ar5e! Badger.
Reply to
Badger

On or around Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:15:02 +0000 (UTC), "Badger" enlightened us thusly:

I think they're pretty similar to the sierra ones, especially the more sporting sierra ones. The ones in my 110 were from an XR4x4, although I recently got a pair much similar from an ordinary (but later) sierra. Didn't bother with the angle adjustment though, they came out OK as they were.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

I have no experience with BLRS's seats but I recently bought ExmoorTrim's rear highbacks (two of them) plus extension kits for the 3 rear seats.

I have been less than impressed by all I received. A few examples. They provide all the screws and nuts and washers. Good. Except that the screws are so long that they physically won't fit between seats and will catch the seat belts damaging them in the process. The fabric (techno in my case) is alright but the plastic that goes on the back of the seats is very thin, a lot thiner than original seats, and thus subject to damage (I already have holes in then and they're not even 6 months old). The extension kits are

*very* badly welded and aligned to the extent that to fit they have to be ground down, thus needing re-painting, which I would have done anyway because the original paint was not that good (trapped dust and hair everywhere and very thin in places and sagging in others).

On top of that, the seats are not that comfortable. The base is shorter the the original (but nicely shaped) and the back is too deep as in a very deep vertical centre area and 2 vertical cylinders (with an almost square section) on both sides, meaning that the passengers' back rests mostly by the shoulders and the spine does not touch anything, not holding the back at all.

So I would just recommend to stay away from ExmoorTrim.

Just my 2p.

Fred

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Fred Labrosse

Following on from Fred's piece above, I called Exmoor trim to enquire about child seats in my 90 (I was looking for some forward facing fixed seats and needed some advice and if they could help) and was made to feel like a complete idiot and that I was wasting their time (I'm not and was'nt). The 'representative' on the other end of the phone even moaned that this was the 3rd call that day enquiring about such a thing.

I was also going to ask about retrimming all my seats, but guess what....I did'nt bother to raise the subject.

Saying that, I cannot get BLRS to even answer the phone....

Cheers Gavin

Reply to
Gavin

On or around 3 Nov 2005 04:00:12 -0800, "Gavin" enlightened us thusly:

had reasonable results from BLRS. They made me a bench seat trimmed in disco blue velour when I asked 'em; only proviso they made (quite reasonably) was that I shouldn't try to send it back if it wouldn't fit.

Their series seats aren't exactly like the originals, but are functionally the same and work OK.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Austin Shackles blithered:

Hmm, suit you sir, although I wouldn't have thought disco blue your colour!

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GbH

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