BFG tyre balance

I fitted a set of BFG ATs to the Rangie last year. Supplied and fitted by local ATS, who have always been A1 as far as I am concerned. The fitter commented that he had a lot of trouble getting them balanced. At about

10,000 miles a slight wobble developed at the front (about 50-55mph), so I went back and had them balanced again. Problem solved. Now, at about 20,000 miles, the same thing has happened. I've had them rebalanced, and it's cured again. Tyres are now about half worn. The fitter said that the tyres were out of balance by (IIRC) 120g on the left and 190g on the right, which he said was quite a lot.

Anyone else come across this? I have never had this problem with tyres before. I ran a set of Trac-Edges from new to knackered on the 90 and they stayed balanced, despite some serious off-road punishment. The ATs have seen plenty of rough stuff, but nothing severe, and there is no obvious sign of external damage. The only thing I can see is that the ATs are wearing faster than the TEs, but with an extra half a tonne of car and 3½ times the power, I'm not surprised.

Any thoughts?

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Richard Brookman
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Richard Brookman vaguely muttered something like ...

Nothing lasts forever .. and with 'large' tyres it's very hard to keep them in balance, it's a reasonably well-known problem, and not really that unusual.

For the cost of re-balancing every 10k miles it's probably worth it .. ;)

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Paul - xxx

Richard Hi,

May I suggest you have a look here?

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Hope this helps.

Take care Pantelis

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Pantelis Giamarellos

In message , Richard Brookman writes

I've had quite a problem balancing the BFG MTs on my Defender. General opinion is that it may actually be the wheels at fault. I'm waiting till the tyres need replacing to find out - only done 53k.

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hugh

On or around Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Brookman" enlightened us thusly:

fscked rim? have they tried dismounting the tyre and putting the rim on the balancer by itself?

Reply to
Austin Shackles

A bent rim will hardly show up on the balancer - not only is it a fairly small proportion of the assembled mass but it's all in at a small distance. I've had rims with a visible 8mm bend that show as perfect when balanced alone. More likely is an improperly seated tyre bead that moves over time.

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EMB

BFG have a current safety recall here in Australia on a range of 4x4 tyres.

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These most likely would have been imported . I'm not sure if BFG import into the UK but it might be worth checking up on the DOT # on the tyres.

Quote from the newspaper notice

"BFGoodrich has decided to voluntarily recall a limited number of 4x4 tyres in Australia (aprox 500) after it's quality system alerted the company to a condition initially affecting ride quality, but could possibly result in steel belt seperation if not addressed."

Remember the Firestone/Explorer debarcle in the USA.

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Simon Mills

I believe they are replacing affected tyres regardless of wear. Be nice to get a new set to replace an 80% worn set. :-)

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Simon Mills

Austin Shackles wrote > >of external damage. The only thing I can see is that the ATs are wearing

Never thought of this, Austin, thanks. It might explain the difficulty in getting the tyres balanced in the first place, but I can't see how an out-of-balance rim would manifest itself as a steering wobble only 10K miles later. I'll get this looked into next time I have the tyres looked at (which may well be at replacement time)

Cheers

Rich

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Richard Brookman

Agreed, especially as they charged me less than a tenner for two wheels, and it took the guy a good half hour.

I'd heard that big tyres are hard to balance, but my set of Trac-Edges on the 90 lasted right through on the initial balance done by Nene Valley on purchase. Perhaps the 90 was so rough that I didn't notice :-)

Thanks

Rich

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Richard Brookman

Hi Pantelis

I have an aversion to putting anything inside a tyre apart from fresh air - too many horror stories from those instant "repairs" and fluids that slosh about and do more harm than good. I am especially careful about a tyre that's holding up one corner of a 2.25 tonne vehicle at (potentially) 125mph/200kph.

Have you used this product? Is it any good?

Regards

Rich

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Richard Brookman

Richard Hi,

I have NOT tested or tried it but it appears very interesting.

What I have tried though and it really did work was a pair of active balancers for the front and rear propshafts on the Discovery of a very good friend which had severe vibration problems between the 80 and 120 Kph speed range.

The problem disappeared altogether just by fitting those rings around the propshafts. Active balancing is a very interesting proposal for vibration related problems.

Take care Pantelis

Reply to
Pantelis Giamarellos

On or around 6 Oct 2004 01:11:07 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk (Richard Brookman) enlightened us thusly:

could also be a buckled wheel, which makes a wobble without being off-balance. Although balancing shouldn't affect that. Sometimes removing and reseating the tyre at a different point will make a significant difference.

120+190 is rather a long way off, even for a big tyre.
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Austin Shackles

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