Defender buying advice

Mar 20, 2006 5 Replies

Having had great fun off-roading in the Disco 3 I have finally decided that it is just too damn expensive for regular off-road use, already trashed 2 alloys and several bits of plastic trim which were easily replaced but costly. It is so good off-road that I am going to end up really bending it as it just encourages me to venture into more and more challenging terrain. So now decided to get myself a Defender 90 as a play thing. Ironically it's the only type of LR I haven't owned yet so I am a little in the dark about what to go for. I have been offered a 1986 County SW V8 for a good price and it has a few off-road mods already but what are V8's like for reliability? If that's a no-go do I go for a 200 or 300 Tdi and can I get a reasonable one for under £4k?



Any help/advice appreciated.



Andy


I'd venture that the V8 is just what you are looking for for a play thing. The V8 is pretty reliable (as long as you don't spit on the spark plug leads ;-0 ) if a bit thirsty. Personaly I prefer

200/300Tdi's (flame proof suit donned), but if the one you've been offered is sound why pay for the extra (the V8 should be well under your budget) - you know your going to bend it........ and you should be able to get it gassed from the change and still have a good night out.

Just my 2p's worth.

Richard

The V8 I've been offered is actually up for £4500, which is quite steep for a 1986 motor but it has had a full interior refurb, checker plates, sump/steering guards, diff guards and cooper STT mud tyres on new white steel rims so all I need is a decent winch and bumper. Is it still overpriced???

A.

All I can say is that any vehicle is only worth what you are prepared to pay for it, and similarly for accessories. A quick flick through this month's LRM is interesting.......

Richard

For a 1986 V8 I would pay no more than 1500 unless it had been rebuilt to a reasonable standard. However if you have the money to spend 4500 on a plaything and really like it then go ahead :-) If you get a V8 then ask Richard for a set of Magnecor leads for it.

Chequer plate dependant on where it is put on is often put on to hid rot, sump and diff guards devalue the vehicle on the general s/h market but of course would be of value to you.

Regards

William MacLeod

I have a V8 90 and it took ages to find the right one 5 years ago, there were so many badly executed conversions with worn engines and ailing gearboxes out there. I didn't want a do-me-upper, or a project vehicle - I just wanted a truck to drive at the weekends and off-road (instead of the company hack) and have the best reliability possible with routine servicing only.

If it's an original factory V8 then it will attract a premium - there are not that many left in good condition and they have the hard-as-nails(if agricultural) LT85 gearbox, and four pin front differential. If it's in good nick and refurbed/well llooked after I'd agree with William, =A34500 seems OK - there's plenty of =A31500 rusty nails around with rotten bulkheads, worn transmissions, tired engines and thumping diffs that will soak up 3k in the blink of an eye and spend more time off the road than on.

As for reliability, the carb 3.5 V8 is probably more reliable than a Tdi because it's an old, low-stressed design with a cam chain and will take heaps of abuse before expiring. Received wisdom says they're aquaphobic (see link for a picture which would suggest not) - which is true if you have old leads/plugs and worn distributor, however with a squirt of WD40 on components in good condition they're fine, but clearly not as good as a Tdi in good condition.

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The best thing about the V8 though is the power delivery, 135 bhp seems pathetic - but it doesn't tell the story of how easy they are to drive off road. The torque delivery from tickover upwards gives it awesome capability in all conditions from rocks to mud becuase you can use a higher gear than in a diesel (e.g. 3rd low rather than 2nd low) which reduces wheelspin to maintain traction and forward progress.

I never bothered gassing mine though - I only do about 4000 miles a year and I want the loadspace in the back for recovery gear (and pies). Happy shopping anyway Andrew!

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