Disco Disc.

Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh, and the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and much much much better....

During stardate Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:21 +0100, Tim Hobbs uttered the imortal words:

H'mmm thinking long term are the pads and calipers standard?

spose I mean the shape of the pads.... then again if they weren't then the calipers would be different.....

Is it obvious the Beer has run dry and the wine has been cracked open?

:0$

Lee D

-- "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."

- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

'76 101 Camper '64 88" IIa V8 Auto '97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd '01 Laguna

Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours to do both sides.

Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:

FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic /Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of date) £14.22 inc VAT FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT

FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) - Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT

STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA /Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT

STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190 £36.25 inc VAT

FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT

• about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)

The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.

Richard

During stardate Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:54:27 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd uttered the imortal words:

Ta Rich, whats EBC mean?

Do those pads work better throughout the range? I.e. none of this warming the brakes up nonsence? Also do they last as long as normal common garden pads? I can't get my head around how the channels don't just shred the pads.

I'm very tempted to go for the upgrade as getting extreme brake fade on a welsh mountain with 1300 kg's of Caravan giving a push is not to be recomended.

Lee D

-- "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."

- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

'76 101 Camper '64 88" IIa V8 Auto '97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd '01 Laguna

EBC is the manufacturer. Their green pads don't need any warming up to work properly.

I did the stainless hoses at the same time, which I was told make more difference than anything else. As always I was comparing worn-out standard with brand-new upgraded, so hard to be objective. But definitely a big improvement.

I doubt that they last quite as long as standard pads, but you won't get high friction AND long life...

EBC is a brand, very well respected in motorsport.

Here's the blurb......

Discs Spotted, not drilled, ro prevent disc cracking Zinc passivated to prevent corrosion in areas outside pad Precision machined and balanced MADE IN UK Max Power award winning performance Rated "Best Fasr Road Spec Brakes"

Pads Extra Heavy 4x4/SUV EBC 6000 Series Heavy Duty Aramid fibre base Tested extensively off-road Fade resistant to 650'C

Richard

Any thoughts on sticking V8 discs and callipers on a TDI? Worthwhile?

P.

On or around Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:38:01 +0100, "Paul S. Brown" enlightened us thusly:

Same. The only advance in calipers was the change to vented disks and wiser calipers to suit. if you do a lot of heavy braking, vented disks will give you a bit more time before fade... but I've never faded solid ones on either the 110 or the disco.

Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some

300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate for the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher top speed.

Richard

And the V8 had solid disks as well, at least in 1995.

In *theory* the V8's should have vented discs, but........

Richard

On or around Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:10 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd enlightened us thusly:

My H-plater was solid discs.

People Hi,

Here in Greece where the climate is a lot hotter than in the UK there is a noticeable difference related to the effectiveness of vented disc brakes when compared to standard ones. Especially if the vehicle is loaded, the weather is hot (how about summer temperatures of around 38 to 40 degrees Celsius in the shade on average?) and the road is downhill you can really appreciate having vented disks instead of standard ones.

Actually one of the common brake system upgrades for Greek LR owners is to fit vented disks. Something that is easily done by replacing the standard disks when the have to be changed. There is no need to change the calipers as you can fit a conversion kit consisting of a pair of spacers, set of longer caliper connecting bolts and seals.

Drilled and vented disks are even better because even though they tend to be a bit noisy they also have a much better feel and more immediate grip when the road is wet (yes it occasionaly rains here in Greece, even in summer and much more frequently during Autumn)

Take care Pantelis

On or around Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:56:37 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos" enlightened us thusly:

I reckon I could live with that. Any nice olive groves up for sale? I could no doubt drive greek kids to school, assuming they do that sort of thing in Greece, and still make trikes, and grow olives in me spare time.