King/Queen for a day?

A device to monitor brainwaves which detects when a driver is not concentrating. Disarms under 10mph.

Lessen the charges/fines for speeding when it's obviously safe (eg: dry clear motorway), increase the charges/fines for speeding when it's a stupid place to speed (eg: past schools, on wet/snowy roads, through nunneries) and dramatically increase the charges for causing death by dangerous/careless driving.

I'm with Tim on the V8 fuel duty idea.

Readers? ;-)

Martyn

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1. All RUPPs and Bridleways to be automatically upgraded to BOAT
2. All ramblers to be banned from BOATs - to be implemented after 1 above, of course

Regards Steve G

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The scrapping of the road tax disc, but including the duty in the cost of fuel, the heavier user pays more to use the roads.Should have done this years ago, it has to be bar far the fairest system.

Insurance details should be displayed in the windscreen, Insurance companies should be obliged to issue a tax disc like certificate which must be displayed to prove valid insurance is held.

Alan Mudd

On or around Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:20:33 GMT, SteveG enlightened us thusly:

yebbut, he said "achievable and realistic".

how about a tax on ramblers, to be used for maintenance of byways for all?

Hear hear to Mr Mudd...!!

How about bringing back the rolling 25 year tax exemption?!

On or around Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:44:12 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Mudd" enlightened us thusly:

to quote Norm Fletcher... Naff orft.

it's not at all fair **unless** you also include valid, practical options to private transport, in all areas.

In this area, it's next-to-impossible to live and certainly impossible to work without private transport. Why should we have to pay (even) more in fuel duty?

I'm more in favour of the congestion charge type approach, which penalises those who use a car in areas and for purposes where there *is* an effective alternative.

On or around Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:40:46 -0000, "Andy Warner" enlightened us thusly:

yeah, now that one I like. costs the treasury sod-all in real terms, too, money-grabbing abtsrasd that they are.

I disagree.

If I lived in the country (and I have done for 14 years in an area 2 miles from the nearest main road / bus stop) then why should people who use the roads very little have to pay through the nose to have country lanes resurfaced / maintained when its the very people who live in the country who use them / need them and wear them.

Now lets say I take my V8 and go for a trundle along said country lanes... then I pay more for it via the increased road duty of fuel.

Public transport has bugger all to do with it. Its the choice of the people that live in the country where they live and it's not like someones suddenly gone and stopped all the buses / taxi's.

I'm quite aware that the generated income isn't all spent on the roads.

The fact there is insufficent public transport in your area is no sound argument for not going down this route. It is a sound argument however for lobying your local MP to get the public transport sorted. Of course those whos income is based on driving would have to ammend there costs accordingly.

Adding road duty to fuel would also save the DVLA lots of faffing around and also ensure nobody escapes it, included the scroaty scumbags that drive around in £50 nails with no insurance tax or MOT then just abandon it to fester at the road side.

Lee D

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|| Public transport has bugger all to do with it. Its the choice of the || people that live in the country where they live and it's not like || someones suddenly gone and stopped all the buses / taxi's. ||

Sorry, but this is bollocks. Ten years ago, there was a bus that went from our road into town at 10am and back again at 2pm. Every day. Useful - if you didn't work and only wanted to go shopping, then you could get by without a car. Now it runs at exactly the same times - but only on Tuesdays. Tell me exactly how I am to get to work if I don't drive a car? (And don't say move into town, 'cos my work is out of town too.)

If the bus had been full then presumably the privatised services would have continued running it. If only a few people use it then it is both economically and environmentally inefficient to run a bus service.

That doesn't help the few people that use it, of course...

At least they can do their shopping on a Tuesday.

Martyn

||||| Public transport has bugger all to do with it. Its the choice of ||||| the people that live in the country where they live and it's not ||||| like someones suddenly gone and stopped all the buses / taxi's. ||||| ||| ||| Sorry, but this is bollocks. Ten years ago, there was a bus that ||| went from our road into town at 10am and back again at 2pm. Every ||| day. Useful - if you didn't work and only wanted to go shopping, ||| then you could get by without a car. Now it runs at exactly the ||| same times - but only on Tuesdays. Tell me exactly how I am to get ||| to work if I don't drive a car? (And don't say move into town, 'cos ||| my work is out of town too.) || || If the bus had been full then presumably the privatised services || would have continued running it. If only a few people use it then || it is both economically and environmentally inefficient to run a bus || service.

Correct. Only about 3 people ever got on the bus that I could see. They were usually pensioners doing the shopping. I guess they must recognise that they are inefficient and a bit of a drain on the rest of us, and take what they are given and be grateful.

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|| That doesn't help the few people that use it, of course...

Indeed.

Like Austin, I choose to live out here and wouldn't move back to the city if you paid me, but it does rankle a bit when we pay the same council tax as the townies but don't get any of the benefits. No street lighting, no doorstep rubbish collection, no police... I wouldn't mind (I choose to live here) except that I pay Band D, exactly the same as someone with a semi in town, who gets all of the above and more.