New landy man to group

Just thuogh would say hello to every one:- I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco. My favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know

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Iva bigun
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The old troll meter's twitching..............................................

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Cassillis

How big is the perkins?

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Samuel

On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:52:12 +1100, "Samuel" enlightened us thusly:

I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.

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Austin Shackles

Friend of mine has the 3.9 Perkins in a Stage One stawag.....awesome !!! Erik-Jan.

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Erik-Jan Geniets

Its a little oversized at nearly 6 litres, but i bet its a lot smoother and quieter than a 4.203, which seems to be the common option to facilitate the snaping of halfshafts in a series.

Alex

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Alex

no sorry gang it is only a 4203 I thought that was big and half shaft/gearbox snaping enough

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James

On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:42:42 +0000 (UTC), "James" enlightened us thusly:

actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used sensibly, is OK.

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Austin Shackles

Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's / specifications? Erik-Jan.

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Erik-Jan Geniets

The amount of torque available from a 2.25 petrol (115 ft.lb) is more than enough to snap a series halfshaft if used incorrectly. The amount of torque available from a 4.203 is enough to snap a halfshaft without doing anything too silly, and enough to render cogs in the gearbox completely smooth if used in anger. The series gearbox just wasn't designed for such torque, it is after all based on the old Series 1 gearbox for a 2.0 IOE engine. They had to uprate certain parts to cope with the 2.25 petrol anyway. Early II/IIa boxes had a tendancy to wear/snap layshafts.

Data from Perkins, current engine range

4-pots (old 4.203) 3.3litre N.A 63bhp@2600rpm 148ft.lb@1600rpm 3.3litre Turbo 80bhp@2600rpm 187ft.lb@1600rpm (old 4.236) 4.0litre N.A 85bhp@2600rpm 207ft.lb@1400rpm 4.0litre Turbo 122bhp@1800rpm (Static Engine) (old 4.269) 4.4litre N.A 78-86bhp@2400rpm 199-227ft.lb@1200rpm 4.4litre Turbo 93-114bhp@2300 275-309ft.lb@1400rpm 4.4litre T-Interc. 99-150bhp@2200rpm 310-406ft.lb@1400rpm 6-pot (old 6.354) 6.0litre Turbo 175bhp@2500rpm 512ft.lb@1400rpm

Not all these figures will make sense, a large percentage of Perkins' engine manufacture is designed for static/genset work, those that are designed for road/off-road use can have different specifications and setup.

Alex

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Alex

On Perkins website, yes, but it's not meant for mobile engines, it's for static engines/generator sets. If you see my other post earlier in the thread, i've tried to collect the information releveant to the engines we've been discussing. Not complete, by any means, and refers to the current range of engines, not the old ones, but it will give you a rough guide. The only one i can't find any relevant data on is the 6.354 (6litre) without a turbo, as perkins no longer seem to do this specification.

Alex

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Alex

On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets enlightened us thusly:

perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches. The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.

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Austin Shackles

Thanks, Erik-Jan.

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Erik-Jan Geniets

They still do 3-cylinder engines, in fact the 3.3 litre is currently available as either a 4-cylinder or a 3-cylinder.

Alex

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Alex

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:21:45 +0000, Alex scribbled the following nonsense:

They also do some nice 3 pot engines with less than 1litre capacity, mostly for starting the bigger plant engines. Friend who works there can buy them for £100 because they fail test on gaskets and stuff.....

1 litre diesel engine, £100 6.0 kva alternator from machine mart £270.19

I feel a project coming on....

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Simon Isaacs

On or around Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:59:20 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs enlightened us thusly:

hmmm. thassa point - I could do with a decent-sized standby genny.

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Austin Shackles

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