New Range Stormer Concept

Jan 08, 2004 53 Replies

Now you've put your head over the parapet I'll happily join you and say that the new Rangie is fantastic and I want one very much indeed. Perhaps more realistic is the new Disco, and it is not beyond possibility that I will own one in 2005.

The reason I still have a '95 Disco is because the 2003 Disco doesn't do anything that the '95 doesn't. The interior and exterior functionality are basically the same from one to the other. The diesel is too slow and the V8 is just as thirsty as the '95, 'cos it's basically the same engine. So while it is 'nicer' and not as generally knackered as mine it doesn't offer the sort of improvement that I would need to justify 30 grand.

I'm very confident that the next Disco will address those issues...

Whilst we are confessing... I think the Freelander is fab, just too small for me. I really wish they would do a fast one, not just a lowered Sport model. Something with 200+ horsepower.

Unfortunately Ford have a habit of turning Concepts into Reality :( so we may be stuck with it

Ford should sell the rights to Land Rover Defenders to somebody who will carry on the tradition leaving Ford to carry on with the Luxury end because after all that's all they wanted was Range Rover .

Anybody Fancy a whip round Austin will still have that link to the V8 Engine production line. :D . We could even start building 101's mmm more members for Martyn. LOL

And for what it's worth an ex-boss/friend of mine has one and having driven it I am defiantly a fan

Mike

-- sig removed as people complained it was crap

and they were right Damn Them !!!!!

Not sure if this grovelling is going to help either of us to get an invite to Bob Dovers leaving do, tho... ;-)

Martyn

You build them, I'll sign the owners up :-)

What, a Defender or a 101?

Martyn

Oh, perhaps yours is lost in the post? :-)

This was also the excuse given for the non-arrival of his Membership Application for the 101 club, after he'd rated the 101 to be his second favourite Landie of all time in the LRO poll :-)

(The same poll in which I was quoted as having the Freelander as my third rated, hmm...)

Martyn

On or around Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:41:00 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

I thought it was quite cool. But I bet they've not got the nerve to produce it with those doors and those seats. Personally, I think it needs things like the doors and the seats, it'd be a major let down to have an outlandish exterior and boring same old s*1t inside.

on the list of "things to do with a million quid after winning the lottery".

On or around Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:37:56 +0000, Tim Hobbs enlightened us thusly:

yer need that opel diesel I was on about. 212 BHP I think they reckoned, from a 1.9. Not bad.

On or around Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:43:59 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

out of interest, is it possible? I doubt enough parts are available.

be more to the point to use standard (as far as possible) parts and make

101-style 110 FCs. Anyone know if the Santana factory is still building FCs?

On or around Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:07:31 -0000, " Mike Jones Super Hero" enlightened us thusly:

actually, if they built it as-is, it'd be great. But it'll get toned down and normalised 'til it's just another 4x4 SUV.

hehe.

seriously, it's already being done. Santana are building their take on the

90/110, which is effectively a series 4 LR. I reckon that if LR stop building the 90/110, Santana should bid for rights to use the coil chassis, and the tooling to build it.

That's really very kind of you Austin, thanks!

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Just don't order me a Silver one though... :-)

Martyn

Well I reckon so. The club remanufactures the few bits which are really hard to get (like RH ball joints and fuel tanks) so it should be feasible for anyone daft enough to tool up to do it. The body panels are not exactly hard to manufacture, either.

I guess I'd opt for non welded balls (fna) if I were going to 'remake' the 101, though ;-)

Martyn

Remind me, how many a year can you build and still get away with SVA rather than Type Approval?

It would be nice to think that LR would put the Defender "out to grass", maybe in mexico like the old beetle, keep it simple like the

300tdi (engine still produced in Brasil I think) and just keep producing it for the less developed markets of the world (and empoverished off-roading fans).

Guy

That's not going to happen, however, the following may start to reassure some of you dedicated Series and Defender lovers:

(Refering to the current Defender) "(there is) significant global market potential for a basic no frills model utilizing proven components".

I can't quote the source, but is is recent (Sept 2003) and from within a department which has some weight. My guess is that this means minimal electrics, basic trim and absolutely none of the luxury extras

- so, no change there, then :-)

Martyn

On or around Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:15:38 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

I was more thinking of me. However, I might win 2 million or even 9 million like some lucky cow on the telly this evening.

must start buying tickets...

Ah, yes... That's always been the subtle flaw in my plan to win the Lottery too...

Martyn

They, LR, have said they will not be producing the Stormer, it's a Show Vehicle. I've heard the real thing will be 4/5 doors not 3 and may not now be called Stormer ( due to the bad vibes about the name?) so RR Sport or RR Super Sport are still on the cards. Oh, and yes, it is to take on the Cayenne and the X5, that's what it's all about, road biased handling above all.

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