New Range Stormer Concept

Jan 08, 2004 53 Replies

Use standard parts from RRCs and make 101 style 100FCs?

I know! Let's buy the rights to the Bedford TM and TL ranges and sell to the military and make ££££££. What? Somebody already did that? AWD? Who were they?

P.

It was interesting to speak to a an 'expert' in Wales who had been asked by LR to try the so called soft roaders against current 'proper' 4x4s in and around his play area by Solihull. Not alot of complimentary words were said around the camp fire that night....only thing that didn't get stuck was his RR Classic and it ended up pulling the others out.

BLMC / Rover / Land Rover mantra has always been to use tested parts. They know which bits don't break as they tend to have a few warehouses full of them - so rather than waiting to sell them, they design them into new medels. Sad but true.

If anyone really wanted to make megaquids, they'd buy the rights to the Llama, as there's more potential to sell a 'Land Rover Commercial' globally than there is a Defender, IMO and all that, head down...

Martyn

The 101 would never have been suitable for civvy use as the cab is just too small. Land Rover knew there was space in the market for a vehicle like the Llama but various factors meant that this was never put into production. There is only one 'road legal' Llama in existence

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really, as it was never actually built by Land Rover, but puttogether from bits by its current owner. My personal feeling was always that the Llama had the potential to be an export winner - more so than the 110. Iveco and Unimog ended up rather competently filling that particular gap.

I believe Phil at Dunsfold has the complete design specifications and production drawings (and half a dozen or so other Llama prototypes).

Martyn

Don't go there - I think Darren would happily kill anyone suggesting such!

Martyn

What info is there on the Llama Martyn ? I have seen a picture, but it doesn't look anything like a 101.

Steve

Wonder if they would give/sell me a copy

Andy

It would be amusing to think Darren could put together a kit of parts....

Steve

When Ford took over Land Rover they specifically extended their rights to everything to do with the Llama. Dunno why, as they didn't (initially) do so for the 101. This may just have been an oversight in their Patents and Copyright Department - bloody unusual though.

Martyn

On or around Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:00:45 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

any more piccies?

I still reckon the 110 chassis has potential as a FC. I beleive there have been some 110 FC made by the SV people.

most of the stuff you need is available from stock, too.

Mind, a 90 FC would make a handy little truck, with about the loadspace of a

110 but on a 93" wheelbase.

mebbe I should have a go at making one. The pictures of the 88" FC prototype looked quite fun, and it'd be more stable on 90/110 axles, too, being as they're wider.

I suppose ideally you'd want a 90 chassis combined with 110 axles and HCPU suspension, or summat.

anyone wants one, I'll build it :-)

Hmm. Looks like you could do the job by fitting a cab from a Leyland Roadrunner to the front of a 101.

Alex

Yeah, but I'm buggered if I can find them...

I've seen a couple of fine conversions (not sure if they were SV). It can work extremely well, especially as you end up with the best of both vehicles - including elevated drive height.

Most of the stuff you need is available from scrappies :-)

There's an 80" FC somewhere, built specifically for use in a vineyard I think.

Nah - it'd never work...

Martyn

I'll put that on my list of projects, after the SWB 6x6

Alex

On or around Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:06:25 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

that too :-)

more to the point, I couldn't raise the wherewithal to build it ATM.

the advantage over the "old" FCs would be the fact that you can now get

4-wheel disc brakes and a half-decent amount of power. The the worst aspects, viz. lack of go and lack of stop, of the "old" IIB etc. solved without effort :-)

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