Re: In a LR dealer today - disgusting service

Is thkind of service to expect form LR dealers? Glad I only bought a badge

Unless they are likely to get a sale (carwise) they could'nt care less. Used to have my 110 Tdi CSW serviced at a Dealer in Kent. They were happy to provide a Discovery for first service, Freelander after that, then a car. Not that I'm moaning as all I wanted was transport, but it did strike me that it was a bit of a cynical approach. I don't go there anymore as the car is 6 years old now and whatever they give me, I am sure it would do the roses good.

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Hirsty's
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It wasn't so much the car thing, it was the attitude of an individual in the circumstances.

he needed a right good twatting!

Nige

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Nige

Leeds, Guiselely actually.

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Nige

Ah !! Yorkshire; now that explains it. :-))

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Hirsty's

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To wreck the show vehicles when trying to park the motor for a service ???

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Hirsty's

For the last 8 years I've had Range Rovers, not particularly new but business had been good last year or two and I decided to get something new, I simply didn't want to worry if and when it went wrong. It's a warranty thing, you get the idea.

I went to Harwoods of Croydon (actually in Coulsdon - Surrey), I was faced the most appalling rude and apathetic people I'd ever come across, they couldn't give a shit that I wanted to buy anything from them, infact they didn't even want to give me a brochure never mind a test drive.

I gave the a piece of my mind and walked out, to the local Mercedes dealer where I decided on new Automatic Vito instead of a commercial disco or freelander, the service I received there was understanding, accommodating and pleasant, no hard sell just informed polite people. I got some alternative quotes from other garages, they matched the best that I could find elsewhere and I signed and paid a deposit for the new vehicle 24hrs after my test drive. That was £24K I sent to Germany instead of supporting a British (yeah yeah American I now) company...:-)

About two weeks ago I get a call from Land Rover customer services asking how well I'd been treated after my enquiry at my local Land rover dealer, yeah right! She was so apologetic I almost felt sorry for Her.

I miss my Range Rover, but if I ever buy another one it won't be from a Land Rover dealer and will never be serviced by them.

I have to say though I do keep having a sneak at the Overfinch website and they currently have two 630R's for sale.....:-)))).....Sadly my wife only just passed her driving test at the beginning of this year and seeing as it cost's me £1350 to insure her Vauxhall Vectra, I didn't think was worth bothering getting a quote on an Overfinch....:-(( Looks like a three year wait for anything nice then....:-((

Muddy

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Alan Mudd

Sorry, I don't feel like playing with the trolls today :)

Reply to
Niamh Holding

Thats my nearest LR garage!

but I don't use it, much prefer the extra few miles travel to; Four plus 4, Sheepscar Street

Nigel

Nige wrote:

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Nigel

A couple of years ago I decided I wanted a Landrover again. I set my budget at between £6000 and £8000. I searched the local ads, garages I even rang a local(ish) dealer. I spoke to some guy at a Landrover dealers in Conway (Work that one out!) When I told him my budget - he laughed, tried to cover it with a cough, I put the phone down. Was I expecting a bit much from a dealer? They could have had the odd part ex vehicle in... I think a lot of them are snobs, if you look like you've got wads of cash you'll probably get a better standard of service. I regularly drive past the Landrover dealers in Chester and out of all the vehicles there about three are landrovers. Then again Chester is full of money!

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Wolverine

It depends very much on the individual you get to deal with. Local LR dealer to here (Wakefield Guy Salmon) has a very mixed bunch on the parts desk. One time I went in the week and opened the discussion with 'I need some help'. The immediate retort was 'try Halfords'. I think it was a piss-poor attempt at humour. That's exactly what I did and Halfords had the part that LR wanted £105 for in stock at £22. LR didn't even have it in (an ignition amp).

On Saturday mornings they have a different guy on, who couldn't be more helpful. When the computer says 'no stock' he actually goes to look, just in case. He's also happy to check, double-check and triple-check the parts codes if the answer isn't obvious.

Sales guys are the same. When I'm buying (rather than just idly checking out the latest models) I make sure I get to deal with someone over 40. They've generally been around long enough to know that mucky jeans and stubble don't preclude you from having 50 grand in the bank.

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Tim Hobbs

My ex brother in law used to work selling new Nissans in Bexley, one day an elderly scruffy couple came in about 4:30 pm and started to look at cars. No one wanted to help so they tootled along the goods; after a while they collared a junior and asked what they wanted. "We'll take it"; brother in law and mates laughed until they were roped into counting out £9000 in 5's,

10's, and 20's from an old carrier bag the couple carried.
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Hirsty's

My experience with LR dealers is somewhat variable, but has a common theme.

Salesmen are your best friend if they think you'll buy something and treat you like a bad smell if they think you won't - got interesting when I went to buy a Disco at the end of a week off wearing my scruffs - imagine something dishevelled with 3 days beard growth, greasy hair and torn jeans/t-shirt coming in and asking about £25k cars. They didn't believe I was interested until I handed them the card for the deposit at which point they became my best friend. Same story (without the buying of a car) at a couple of other dealers - dressed like scruff, get treated like shit. Wearing a suit, have the salesmen drooling over you.

Service tends to be poor. Poor at calling you, poor at explaining the pricing, poor at almost everything including knowing what they need to charge you. Granted a 60k service on an 8 month old car may be unexpected, but even so. I find that most service departments have one cheerful type who has been there for ever and several foetuses who hate the job, hate the customers and don't mind letting you know it.

Parts departments, IME, tend to be good if it's an established franchise and shit if it's a new one.

With the established franchises I tend to run into professional parts managers who have been in the industry for 20+ years and are immensely competent and have a professional pride and are not above pointing you at

3rd parties for items that they know the OEM kit is as good as the original and that they don't carry in stock - they seem to believe in keeping the customer happy as they are more likely to see the customer than anybody else in the franchise. The kids who end up working alongside these guys tend either to pick up the attitude very quickly, and are good to deal with, albeit less clued than the manager, or they get fired by the manager who doesn't need the grief of a pissed off customer who's just blown several hundred quid on the wrong bit.

With new franchises the parts managers tend to be recently graduated business studies students and don't know the job, don't know the parts and don't know the work-rounds. This attitude carries through the department.

Mechanics at dealerships are decidedly variable - some are 30 year time served guys who know *all* of the trick and what size of hammer to use where; increasingly they are kids who get lost if the computer doesn't tell them what the fault is and what modular unit to swap in for it. Lord help them on the pre-electronic landies (Almost everything before 1995 that isn't a Rangie).

Maybe I'm just sick, but I make extremely sure to park my own cars right at the end of their sales line.

Muddy, scratched, totally non standard. Makes the shiny things sit there and go "I'm not worthy. Please teach me oh Guru"

P.

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Paul S. Brown

As a rule, franchise dealers aren't allowed to keep anything over 3 years old on the forecourt, and you're expecting a lot to get any 3 year old landie for £8k.

They actually get hit with financial penalties if tradeins aren't gone quickly.

Of course, some get around this - near me are Chipperfield Land Rover who don't keep anything over 3 years old on the forecourt. However they do also run Kings Langley Landrover and Thame Landrover, both of which are specialists, but are non-franchised and keep almost any age of car around if it's tidy enough to sell - I've seen them with almost everything back to S1s.

So, yes - calling a dealer with that sort of expectation is rather taking the piss. Find your local non-franchise place and ask them.

P.

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Paul S. Brown

I think 'taking the piss' is a bit harsh, not everyone knows the facts you pointed out!

Reply to
Wolverine

Sorry - I'll try and come out of my main dealer salesman point of view :@)

That wasn't supposed to be an attack on you by the way.

P.

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Paul S. Brown

I arrived unshaven and dirty (just done a clutch in my Series IIa) in said LR at a largish, urban Toyota dealership. I found a new 4x4 Hilux I like the look of and then started ticking the option boxes for all the nice bits. The salesman came up with a silly price, so I asked him very nicely to sharpen his pencil a bit for me seeing as how I might actually buy a couple of them. He told me "the price is the price". 10 minutes on my cellphone to a slightly more rural Toyota dealer (and relating the above) had me a price that was 15% cheaper - they got the order for all

15 Hiluxs that we bought over the following 4 months.

One quick complaint to the urban salesman's boss, and there was one unemployed salesman too!

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EMB

On or around Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:12:17 +1300, EMB enlightened us thusly:

I reckon the theory here is that yer better off with rural dealers unless you look smart and besuited.

the rural lot are more used to scruffy-looking farmers with a couple of grand in notes in their back pocket... or they are around here, maybe.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

Sounds like a prime customer for one of my "Warning! No Franchised Dealer Serviceable Parts Inside" stickers ;-)

Only £1.50 each!

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Neil Brownlee

VAT receipt?

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Mother

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