Transplant engine?

This forum has always come up trumps to date, so here goes again. I'm looking for a montego 2.0L turbo engine, and I've come across one advertised in an estate car. It's done 131000 miles, and the owner had the following to say about it..................

"thank for your enquiry.... well...sounds like i've got the right engine then!!! smokes a bit from start up and under hard load uses about a pint of oil every 6-8weeks, not excessive for this engine.Excellent power and no leaks that I am aware of...in fact the only leak the vehicle has is from the heater matrix coolant inlet pipes and that's only a minor leak! ".........................

Question: Is it worth fitting this one? It's on eBay and a couple of hundred miles from home, so I can't see or hear it. I only have what the owner says above to go on....and any advice from you learned fellows. TIA bob

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bobgal
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Fitting it to what?

P.

Reply to
Paul S. Brown

I've decided to fit it into my LWB 6 cylinder petrol. I've already decided on the type of engine, I'm asking about the condition of the engine here. cheers

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bobgal

If youre going to the expense and the effort of fitting a non-landrover engine in a landrover (buying conversion plates, sorting out your engine mounts, exhaust etc) why not go for something bigger and more powerful than a 2L engine?. I have no idea of what this engine is like, but surely an old 2L turbo cant be that much of an improvement compared to what you could do for similar time and money?

I'm not trying to pick faults with your plan, or put you off, but was just wondering why! :) If i was going to go to do an engine swap now I'd be after atleast a

2.5 turbo diesel or a V8 or bigger petrol..
Reply to
Tom Woods

I'd guess at about 130 bhp, but fairly revvy. I'd be pretty nervous of the state of the turbo, having had a turbo fail in a car of about that vintage. Quite expensive to repair, too expensive to replace.

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Tim Hobbs

I appreciate what you are saying guys, I was a bit sceptical myself, but I was directed to these sites, where I was convinced of the soundness of the idea. I have a fair working knowledge of mechanics but am completely lost at design/innovation--a plumber, not an engineer. With this plan, all the technical stuff has been troubleshot, and I reckon I can put it all together.. sites:

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What I'm looking for is a good engine-I think I already know this one isn't quite what I'm after. All advice welcome and appreciated--probably be hearing a lot more from me when this takes off...bob

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bobgal

130bhp? The petrol turbo only had 150!

The Montego 2 litre turbo diesel had 80bhp and 116lb-ft of torque ocurring low down around 2500rpm IIRC which was good for then. . . . . . .;-)

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Exit

That is not *really* enough power for such a heavy car. TD5 would be a better proposition

-- SW

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QuickDraw Steve

Where does anyone say 'diesel'?

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Tim Hobbs

On or around Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:05:42 -0000, "bobgal" enlightened us thusly:

we-eell.

the 2.0 Perkins Prima is a good engine of it's type. I'd have thought it a little underpowered for a LWB, but it's more powerful than the standard

2.1/4 LR diesel, and more I think than the petrol as well. ISTR about 90 BHP as a figure for these, the non-turbo being about 60.

milage isn't too much of a problem, as it's generally a robust unit, but a turbo one needs to have a decent history at that mileage.

the smoke is more relevant, really. It shouldn't. especially when warm. It might simply need the pump resetting, but it might be summat more expensive and hassle-ridden.

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Austin Shackles

On the other hand the 2 1/4 diesel only produces 62 bhp and 103lb-ft so it's an improvement on that but is better suited to SWB the engine is an excellent engine apart from being prone to head trouble if it overheats it will most likely warp or crack the head

Andy

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Andy.Smalley

The Perkins Prima diesel, as fitted to the Montego, isn't a big jump from the 2.25 petrol in power and torque, but it is enough to notice. And fuel consumption will drop a lot. It can make pre-Tdi Land Rovers a lot more practical.

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David G. Bell

On or around Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:53:57 +0000, Tim Hobbs enlightened us thusly:

good point. I'd assumed it. I don't know if they did a petrol turbo one though. Thought that was only the fancy Maestro.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

There was (I think) an MG Montego which I thought had the same lump as the Maestro.

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Tim Hobbs

Cheers all, I've got one. Out of a maestro! Turn up. Same engine as the montego apparantly. The 2.0L "diesel" turbo that is, as I should have said, but assumed everyone else would assume Thanks for comments and ....don't go away!

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bobgal

Oh, that takes me back to my "Cars and Car Conversions" days in the late 80s. The MG Montego was absurdly fast (for a staid saloon car), but suffered horribly from torque steer. The Maestro, being lighter, suffered commensurately more ...

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QrizB

I wouldn't personaly travel far to get one,but then i am a lazy git. an engine isn't worth a lot, well not compared to other engines. I see you have one, i have some email adresses of some for sale, i will put them on my site.

131k isn't to much, mine had 98k on it, now 119;-) A turbo going means a turbo rebuild, midland turbo charged me about 150 a time to rebuild T4's that have had valves go through them, that means new impellers as well as bearings and seals, i doub't your going to have that happen. If i needed another turbo i would probably buy another engine, cheaper...

If you buy a whole car you can take bit's off the car but to be honest there isn't that much you need, the engien wiring can be made up and i can't think what else you want off the top of my head.

if you could find one with new injectors and pump that would be worth a premium, my engine at 98k still had the cross hatching visible near the tops of the bore! I gather thats pretty normal. as to wether it's powerfull enough for you? let me know when it's done. i get asked whats it like in a lwb, and i haven't the faintest idea. td5 or 300's woudl be great but you can't find rakes of them in the local papers for under a hundred quid yet..

-- richard

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richard

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