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Also the fad for putting portal axles from a C303 onto a Defender. I'd read the Defender's side slope as 37 degrees, whacking portals on would raise the truck by about 8 inches if you up the tyre size too but because the landy's not designed for it, the CoG would be far higher than the C303. I know the pinz tipover is rated at 43 degrees, but like the landy they don't state what model so the more top-heavy ones, e.g. the Defender CSW and the FFR K-model pinzes are probably what get the rating with the other lower CoG versions getting better. The 6x6 pinzes have an even higher likely real-world rating due to the rear suspension design.

Also none of the tip-over ratings mention loads at all, so they're probably all playing it very safe.

Halfords rubber-band tyres on wide wheels... Or double-up wheels like has been done on a few occasions, there's a pic or two on 't' internet of a series that had doubled wheels, someone on here posted a link to it many years ago, the mod had been done specifically to get it up some boggy mountain or other IIRC. Or it might have been on the "Land rovers across britain" dvd.

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Ian Rawlings
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I'm often drawn towards something like that or a set of flotation type ag tyres. Its very hard to balance out the effects on traction and the possibility of side slip type issues on cross slopes. This could be balanced out with moie agressive tread patterns but then I'm into the realms of cutting up the pasture just to get back to the same overall level of safety.

Its a complicated problem. Until I win the lottery and can afford to experiment with loads of options I'll muddle on with the current choice of 7.50x16 SAGs. They seem like a good compromise and I could spend an awful lot of money without gaining anything apart from cool looking tyres ;(

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Tim Jones

Doubling up wheels could probably be done fairly cheaply given that you can buy old landy wheels quite cheaply, the only head-scratching part would be the spacer needed to bolt them onto the normal wheels in a secure manner, not sure how it's done on tractors but I'd imagine the wheels are made with this in mind, unlike landy wheels. There's also altered stressing on the inner wheels, to avoid that you'd have to bugger about with the wheel flanges and that's getting complicated. Then of course there's road legality..

Hmmm.... (throws it onto the "maybe one day" pile)

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Ian Rawlings

Dead right Austin. I dropped a 109 on it's side driving a piece of easy ground (near level field) when an underground cavern collapsed under the NSF wheel. There is no way in hell that driver error was a part of the accident - it was an area I've driven probably a thousand times on tractors, motorbikes and in 4x4s from the time I was old enough to reach the controls. Act of God, nothing else. And in my former career as a fireman I went on a few rescue missions after accidents that could in no way be blamed on the driver of the vehicle involved.

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EMB

I've seen two different methods with tractors, one was quickfit and involved a steel spacer ring and some over centre latches that gripped in lugs welded to the inner wheel the other was a trumpet housing which mounted on the wheel inner where the weights normally bolt on and this tapered down to a replicated hub with wheel studs.

You really don't want double wheels off road as they pick up rocks, bricks or sticks which then chafe the carcase.

When I had them on my tractor it was >3m wide and quite stable on side slopes!

Not to mention stress on hub bearings.

AJH

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AJH

Yeah I flagged a truck down once as it left a building site because I noticed it had half a house brick wedged in between its rear tyres! Didn't fancy getting that in my face.

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Ian Rawlings

On or around Mon, 21 May 2007 10:01:58 +0100, "Oily" enlightened us thusly:

I don't normally expect them... and also my maintenance is pretty tight - but that doesn't mean all my motors are in perfect condition: they're not - they all have mechanical issues which I judge to be not-urgent, and need sorting sometime, in the meantime they continue to work and generally don't fail.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Mon, 21 May 2007 11:10:21 +0100, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

I'm pretty sure that the old landy ads which stated 45 degrees were for an unladen vehicle. Something big and bulky in the back will raise the COG quite a bit, as would having say 7 people in it. Most especially, any load which can move enormously increases the risk.

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Austin Shackles

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