you Brits are f***ed

Jan 11, 2006 93 Replies

Or use mixmaster to send email and post to news, that's a beeatch to try and trace even with direct mixmaster node monitoring. I really must get around to setting a node up sometime, despite not having a need for it myself. Hell I don't even spamtrap my email address!

There are images of tracks on the moon taken by one of the recent probes (Clementine ?)

It is well known that Hubble isn't the only 2 metre scope in orbit, just the only one pointing out....

Steve

Fakes. Where's the kin landing craft then? It's all a big conspir...

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Images of things that have been tentatively labelled as "tracks", but they're 75 feet wide so I don't think that was anything left by the astronauts! They were taken from the Lunar Orbiter. On the images I've seen, the tracks are barely visible because the camera's resolution is, again, too low to make out anything small.

The Clementine probe is well-known in Capricorn-1 freak circles, including photos showing a 30-mile wide "replica of the Pentagon" proving a manned base on the moon (...), but it's a fuzzy blob due to the resolution limitations of the camera.

Mars Global Surveyor can pick up objects of 1-2 metres on Mars though. Still not good enough to track a car, just register that a sort-of-car-shaped-thing is there. A normal car would be approximately a 2x1 pixel line.

I just hope they point it away when the sun's behind it ;-)

(yes I know, I'm only joking)

Anyhow, I've not seen any references to camera technology in the Galileo satellite constellation so quite why we're still going on about this subject I don't know!

I expect it's possible to get high-enough resolving powers to make out a car, but making it out reliably enough to track it and prove that it's the right car, never mind read a numberplate, while simultaneously having enough controllable cameras or field of view to track hundreds of cars across the country is pie-in-the-sky rather than spy-in-the-sky.

If they go ahead with GPS-linked road pricing there won't be a choice - unless you don't drive. Push bikes may be exempt until their use becomes too widespread.

What I mean is the financial incentives for people to agree to do it, until the critical mass becomes large enough for it to be forced on everyone. They won't just splash it out across the country immediately, it'll start off slow, e.g. insurance companies offering lower premiums if you have a tracked car (already happening in trials), then there will be some roads and cities that will become toll zones with lower tolls for tracked cars, and move out from there until critical mass is reached.

Chances are it'll be transponders before GPS I reckon, at least in some areas. I'm reckoning on a 20-year timescale before it becomes compulsory, if the population don't reject it first. I expect it's part of the justification for the cost of the Galileo constellation.

You can take your tongue out of your cheek now, Rich.

It ain't any better here!! (Netherlands) Erik-Jan.

Benign? - this is the most meddling, intrusive, money-grabbing, dishonest (enough, enough..) Government that I've experienced in my lifetime.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:43:59 +0000, Ian Rawlings scribbled the following nonsense:

If you know where to look when you use google earth, you can even identify Grumble on the high res images.....

Infamy, infamy, they've all got it....

What a carry-on!

...and Dougal spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

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Third squiggle from the left... Obvious when you see it.

Cheers, you can still see the wheelie bins they left up there!

haha. I've just wasted half an hour 101 hunting on google earth :)

Mine is hidden under a tree I think (or the picture is a tad too old). Every other one i know round here is not in a decently covered area and its all a blur :(

Mine's fairly clear, and there is a distinct purple blob in Sheffield...

I've found the purple one!. Its gonna take me a while to scan the rest of yorkshire looking for your house though ;)

ok - so I just had to look :)

Google Earth eventually installed after 3 failed downloads. The DirectX mode trips out and OpenGL simply shows a black screen here - all menus and text/search functionality seems to work as intended. Oh well.

hrmm - yes, that just about sums up my weekend :)

Good grief - that's scary. Wonder when it was taken - GS is there, but the S3 seems to have the old tilt on it - so dates it at at least

3 years old, which seems unlikely.

You'll need to look a little further South, now...

So, a set of pointers for 101s on Google Earth - what a very sad collection to start, erm...

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