306 D Turbo Starts on 3 Cylinders

Oct 13, 2005 4 Replies

Okay this one is confusing me now. Seen a few posts saying the same thing.



Car starts and runs very lumpy with what seems like only 3 cylinders firing. This is accompanied by black and white smoke which gives and sort of grey as the mix. A few seconds and it clears and all is fine, alternatively blip the throttle and it clears. It always clears with a puff of black smoke. The cold makes the situation worse.



I have replaced all the glowplugs but still suffer from the problem. Car is a 95 with 84K miles on the clock.



I suspected worn injectors but have been adviced to get a compression test. Spoke to local garage and they say there is no point as if it were low compression it would run on 3 cyliners constanly (not so sure about that). He thought it may be air in the fuel system.



Here is the starnge thing, I have found (purely by accident) that if I give the priming pump a couple of pumps before I cold start it, the problem does not seem to occur. I get a tiny bit of smoke, but it does not run on 3 cylinders. What does this suggest? Injector pump?



Don't know where else to go with this one, so any help would be much appreciated. Using the process of elimination on this sort of thing can be expensive, time consuming and inconclusive, so any suggestions are very welcome.



Thanks all in advance, Adam



What sort of plugs did you use to replace the ones you took out? If they were the cheapy own brand ones from Halfords, they're a false economy and it's possible one has failed already.

Got a multimeter? Check the continuity of the wiring going to the plugs, and the plugs themselves.

84k miles isn't an awful lot for one of these cars. Injectors or pump is possible I suppose but reasonably unlikely.

The priming bulb pumping thing does point to the fuel system. Check the rubber injector return hoses for leaks. When the engine is stopped, it could be allowing air to be drawn back into the fuel system.

Often on Peugeot Diesels of this generation there's a clear bit of fuel hose under the bonnet before it reaches the pump. If there's bubbles in that at all, air is getting in somewhere. Check the pipes that run under the car from the tank to the engine bay, if they're wet with fuel at all then there's a good chance one of them is leaking.

If there isn't a clear bit of hose, it's reasonably cheap and simple to fit a bit.

Hope that helps. If it doesn't, it might eliminate a couple of things.

Douglas

Double check the glow plugs, take them out and make sure they actually glow. Assuming they are ok then check for leaking spill pipes that let air back in (common on Vauxhalls) replace if in any doubt.

mrcheerful

Thanks both, very useful information.

I do have a mutlit meter and can also test the glow plugs actually glow. Can this be done on any 12v car batter, I assume it can although is likely to drain it pretty quickly.

I will check all pipework for signs of a leek, but pretty sure there is no clear hose anywhere. Haynes just says to open the little valve at the bottom of the fuel filter and prime until there are no air bubbles. When no more bubbles flw out, close the valve and carry on priming until resistence is felt on the bulb... couple more squezzes for good luck and the job is done.

One of the plugs was from Pugeot dealer and the other 3 were from an car spares place near where I live. Could be a little bit budget, but the car was still starting on 3 cylinders right after replacing.

Cheers, Adam

If it starts ok every time after priming then it's a fuel problem, not glow plugs. It's worth trying a non-return valve on the fuel inlet to the pump. Available at any diesel repair shop and fairly cheap.

John

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