Corsa D 2009 1.2 litre Cable or Hydraulic clutch?.

An eBay search brings up bazillions of cables, but no slave cylinders. Purely based on the fact that it?s a ?base model? vehicle (from 11 years ago) I?d go for it being a cable operated clutch.

Tim

Could she check if it has both a brake and clutch master cylinder?

Gazillions of cables sounds ominous for the OP. At least they're easy to fit when compared to a concentric slave cylinder.

Many cars now use the brake master cylinder reservoir to feed the clutch master cylinder via a short tube.

The Corsa D master cylinder is under the dash. There is nothing much to see in the engine bay other than 2 tubes to a bulkhead connector.

First thing would be to check brake fluid level and top up if low. The feed to the clutch is on the side of the reservoir so it can't drain the brakes but can be high and dry. Seems you depress the pedal, open the bleed valve and just let fluid drain though, no pumping of pedal and pressure bleeders will pop the slave cylinder seal.

Then look for the leak but it may just be brake and clutch pistons all being extended dropping the level in the reservoir.

Check for fluid under dash - master cylinder is cheap and fairly easy. Check for fluid weeping from transmission - slave is PITA.

How to make a £150 job cost £750. If the slave is leaking you most likely need a new DMF and clutch kit as well. Simple old fashioned external slave leaking wouldn't get fluid to the plate and rubber in DMF. But a pivot and arm costs money, which would make the car cost £50-£100 more in the showroom. If they can save £50 on the "lifetime" cost of first three years for fleet buyers they will do it even if it costs the 3rd/4th user that can't afford it £1,000. If it was RWD where the gearbox just falls out it wouldn't be too bad but FWD means drive shafts have to come out, which means front suspension has to have lower ball joints split to move hubs outwards off splines, brakes have to be removed as hoses don't stretch.

Get an EV, won't have a transmission, wont have cam belts or chains, won't have an emissions system that feeds exhaust into the intake filling the intake system with carbon. Shouldn't be getting scrapped for simple £75 part failure that costs £750 to fix like ICE cars.

Ford have put cam belt on on the clutch end of the 2012 1L ecoboost engine. 10 years or 150k miles = Cam belt = engine out and strip down job = £1000+ = scrap car or just run it till the belt fails. So in 2 or so years time this will be an issue and word will get around that 10/9/8 year old Ecoboost Fiesta's are worthless. It's going to wreck the resale value of Ecoboost Fiesta and that's going to ripple back up the resale chain to 3 year old cars. Then what are the fleet buyers gong to say?

Quite - but presumably you can see both the cylinders if you look above the pedals? Or is it boxed in?

It is Hydraulic and it seems that it may be the slave cylinder thats inside the bell housing and as Peter says its clutch out etc.

Been quoted by a local small garage we use as 3 to 400 quid!

Saw late last night a vid on Youtube bloke there specialises in them and it takes around an hour to do mind you he has everything to hand inc some power drivers that just whip the bolts and screws etc apart!

And yes it does have a combined cylinder. It seems earlier ones did have cable operated clutches..

Interesting on what you say re EV's suppose the battery's going to be the main concern but i bet someone will say;

You need a new charge/ motor management system module guv!, best price will be around £1000 odd;!!..

Offside front motor will be £???, anyone's guess i suppose?..

You might check with a clutch place like Mr Clutch - if they still exist. But first check it's not the master cylinder. Or simply low in fluid.

My limited experience of this type of slave cylinder is the pedal starts to sink and there's wet patch under the bell housing.

If there is literally no clutch, the fluid level stays high and there is no leak I would first suspect the master cylinder before any major dismantling.

All done now that was the slave cylinder fortunately it didn't damage the clutch plate with fluid so we've decided to just change the cylinder and seems fine.

If it is one of those where you have to remove the box to change, I'd have fitted a new plate anyway. Given the cost of that against the labour.

Given the symptoms I would check the master cylinder isn't all nice and shiny.

Perhaps I'm too cynical abut garages. There are very few I would trust.

The one in question is fine and inexpensive tho if you want a complementary cuppa you have to make it yourself and one each for them!....

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Yes point taken but from what they could see of it all looked fine. Its not intended to keep that car for much longer so seems a valid risk.....

I might well be maligning them. But a quick check would go a long way to continue to hold this garage in high esteem.

No their fine, been taking my car/s there for some 15 years now!..

Cheers...

I recall replacing brake shoes on a relative's car. It was for a Ford Escort Mk3/4. The rear shoes were designed to be different thicknesses as the wear rate for leading and trailing shoes would be different.

The garage owner had taken on a second mechanic. When he got the new shoes the lack of wear would have been apparent, but still he changed them and charged full wack for the privilege. This is after my relative had been a patron of this garage for many years.