Peugeot 5008

A) does it have a Peugeot badge? B) if so avoid like the plague.

Why do you say that. I have a 206SW almost from new and it has been no trouble whatsoever.

My wife's 205 Gentry (a 1.9GTi Auto) was a cracking car. No more troublesome than any other we've owned.

I suspect that these ones where people say they'd never have one again have all been old bangers with 53 owners on the log book.

Not necessarily. You have to look at the bigger picture; independent surveys show French cars in general and Peugeot in particular to have a greater number of breakdowns and need more repairs than others.

Of course, a small number of owners of cars shown as unreliable will have no problems with their particular car, and conversely otherwise reliable makes will have individual cars showing lots of faults.

The biggest issue I have with Peugeot is the difficulty of repairing them. They are the worst company for not recording which vehicle has a particular part fitted. It seems they buy components from lots of sources, and fit whatever is to hand on the assembly line. More the once I've stood in parts departments with bits in my hand that I've just removed from a Pug, and been told that it couldn't possibly have come from that model!

I've never seen a wiring diagram for a Pug that actually corresponded to reality!

They also make changes during production that are not passed downstream. For example, they changed the rear wheel cylinder specification for smaller vehicles to match that of larger ones. This means that if you buy the only wheel cylinder that is now available, the brake pipe won't fit, and no part is stocked that can correct this situation. The only way round it is to make, or have made, a pipe with a rarely-used nut. It's a complete PITA, and even the dealers have been caught out by it.

OTOH, someone who buys new every three years or so is less likely to be troubled by these issues.

Chris

I've had that with a Cavalier Master Clinder, the dealer tried to convince me that somebody had changed it to M12 fittings after they'd built it, including making up new steel brake pipes.

Is this a 1.6 diesel?

Just don't.

Wheezy, asthmatic, thirsty. Totally unsuited to something that size - I only saw 39mpg from that engine in a Focus.

The 2.0 HDI / TDCI engine is much, much better. Especially with a Powershift box.

have to agree - owning a 2.0 HDI - and driven a smaller engined loan car.

I think the 5008 is a 4x4?? and the smaller engin would not be suitable. Don't be mislead by smaller engines are more economical.

What's more I think the body is from Mitsubishi.

Not that I am aware of

And just to prove the point made above about peoples POV differing, I get over 50 mpg around town, to and from work, with some rural, motowary work upto 25mile trips out of my focus.

The pool car at work stays about 40mpg but then that is driven mainly on short trips with the air con on and enthusiastically with a larger electrical load.

The 5008 is a bigger car so I would see your logic.

Yes that was back when Peugeot had a brief period of making a car that wasn't s*it. Everything before it and everything after it has been dreadful and of course they are French .

Aren't most/a lot of the parts made in Iran?

The 1.9 auto was sadly detuned from 130hp to about 105 AFAIK but still a hoot to drive :)

Tim.

Why are autos sometimes detuned? Is it so they can use an off-the-shelf gearbox which can't handle the full torque of the highest spec engines?

Maybe partly , maybe to do with the narrower power band of a small tuned engine, coupled with generally fewer gear ratios in an auto box (not nowadays)

They're not always detuned. The original Mini auto had a more powerful engine than the equivalent manual.

But older autos with few ratios may work better with an engine with a different torque curve to a manual.

As we howled down the Newport Pagnell bypass at 105 mph on our test drive, my wife, who is not a quick driver (and was driving), was observed to comment "Nippy, isn't it?"

The original Mini auto made a slug look like a race car.

That's very true. My Mom had one. 0-60 best timed with a calendar.