In denial eh ??
I *did* own several, my last was a brand new one, fully loaded.
You only need to watch DCTV (MB's satellite channel on Hotbird
satellite) to know that MB are NOT what they used to be (in fact they
admitted it in one of their reports recently on that channel).
Come on, no troll, just *show* me where/how they are any better than
For christ's sakes they can't even design a dashboard. The e-class
dash is a MESS, and look at *any* of the serious competition and where
do they ALL put the Navigation ?? in eye sight of the instruments.
And where does MB put it in ALL of it's junk ?? by the radio !!!!!
Nice design !
Check out the Audi A8 and tell me it's not better than the S-class ??
MB's of today are just plastified Chrysler's with a three pointed star
- you know it!
Okay, tell me the Vito, Vaneo etc are really great and street's ahead
of the competition.
Face facts, MB lost it around the late eighties.
No troll, just facts.
In spite of my other cars I am extremely satisfied with my 98 E320. But of
course people driving other brands will always be knocking on
our doors. I take this as a compliment because it proves they still have
to measure up to us.
Basically we have to ignore these trolls...I'll admit their ignorance
makes you want to respond and so we do sometimes...but , their inferior
feelings that they have toward their cars make them post such ridiculous
comments and we should feel sorry for them rather than ridicule them.
Depends on what you are looking for in a car. If you want a large,
secure, comforable car that handles relatively well for its size, and is
likely to last for a long time, with gauges and controls laid out perfectly,
and comfortable seats, in a living room quiet interior, it is hard to fault
If you're looking to be on the edge of your nervousness envelope, fighting
the wheel, fighting the tires, wind whipping through your hair, maybe a
different car is better. I could suggest a 488 ft lb torque monster like a
If you're looking for four wheel drive access to ski slopes, in a light,
easy to handle vehicle, hard to beat a Subaru.
And certainly an Audi S-8 is every bit the car that a Mercedes S Class is,
for four passengers. This is pretty much all about personal taste at the
end of the day, depending on what you can afford, and what you like.
99 S420 Mercedes
96 RT/10 Viper Dodge
Of course one can just agree to differ about design etc, I'm guessing
that you are all from America. Do you have the MB Vito, or the MB
Vaneo, or the A-class ??
I suspect you don't.
Well, wait until (hopefully) a few european's jump into this thread
and you will NOT hear one good thing about these vehicles - because ??
They are a JOKE !
Sorry guys but you are just brainwashed with marketing hype - I was
too when I bought my first and last brand new loaded mercedes. It's
just the brand name giving you guys false impressions - I was the
same. Open your eyes and see what the other German manufacturers are
making and show me where the Mercedes equivilents are better.
So far all you all have done is get personal - it's nothing personal,
I'm asking, tell me how MB are 'better'.
And to whoever asked what car do I own currently the answer is;
nothing. my last car got stolen, it was a MB W123.
Would I ever have another MB ?? Definitely, either another W123, W124,
W126 or W140 (is that the e-class they made upto 1999 ??). If I had
$$$ to throw away and I needed it, I'd also consider the large early
But I'd never own another new one.
I admire your honesty and logic Tosher. Thank you! I agree, older MB's
are beautiful cars but the mass marketing approach is ruining the MB
brand. We had a '96 S500 Coupe that was incredible. I mistakenly thought
the '00 CL500 would be a comparable car. Not so! I wish I had the S500
back. Even our '94 E320C was more reliable than the '00 CL500. Alas...
W 140 is the S-Class, last year of the slab sided 4700 lb version was
produced in 1998 as a 1999 model. That's the one I have. So far, a very
nice vehicle, but I bought it at 32,000 miles and I only have 59,000 on it
99 S420 (W140)
96 Viper RT/10 Dodge
I should have written that sentence a bit better, yes I love your
version, that's a great car. I also meant that I'd may risk going for
the round headlighted e-class (upto 99) as well as your one.
I'm no troll, and I know a lot of people agree with me in what I say.
Hell, I used to take my cars to perhaps the most respected independant
MB garage in the UK (his main repairs are to the classic 600's,
Gullwings etc as well as the modern ones) - yes, just to have my plan
W123s serviced there. He confided in me that Mercedes lost it around
1992, the quality of the parts is nothing compared to what they used
to be back then and before. And he refuses to even touch the v-class
I just hate marketing hype - believe me, MB will pay the price. Maybe
never in sales, but in some way (maybe as not being recognised as the
great car manufacturer it once was).
It's just so sad that to me, look at quality and VW are actually
better than MB (in europe) today.....
Well, it's too soon for me to comment. Let's see what happens to the W140
S class in another 60,000 plus miles. If it is doing well, I will be
favorably impressed with at least the 99 model year. If it is a junk heap
requiring constant repairs, I will no longer own it.
Too soon to tell. However, I can certainly appreciate VWs, Audis, older
Benzes as well. But then, I just love cars in general.
96 Dodge Viper
When you let those cars stand next to each other today, you can make the
mistake you made.
Do it after 20 years, it will not happend again.
Of course you may drive a car for 2 years and buy new one, but then some
Korean toy will do as good.
Actually I drive and somewhat like my MB.... this guy has a point.
Problem is quality.... I drive a $48,000 totally loaded c320 sport
wagon. I am considering going to Audi or Lexus, or anything that might
not break as often as my 2001 MB.
Luckily the mercedes is under warranty, and leased, but unless MBUSA
ponies up some cash for my lemon (so far they offered $3,000 - a joke!),
I will be looking elsewhere. So much for one of the great quality
brnads... I sincerely hope this car is an anomoly...but that remains to
I drive a similar 2002 C320 sport wagon and have not had any problems
with it except for a loose cargo cover. That's trivial and replaced
under warrantee, of course. So, while I am certainly sympathetic to
your situation, both our histories are anecdotal.
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