Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon

if you're simplistic and naive this is a plausible conclusion __________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I might be simplistic and naive, but I am nowhere near as simplistic and naive as the current occupant of the White House.

In message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Bruce burned some brain cells writing:

1. That's not saying much.
2. Whom do you propose as a better replacement.

thanks for the answer - i'd be curious to hear your experiences so far. I'm looking at getting a 300d in the next few months and have plans to either put in a two-tank system (such as frybrid or greasel) or a one-tank system such as lovecraft or elsbett.

Also, what are you running in the tank? Are you at 10% WVO/SVO? 50%? 80%?

Exactly my point. ;-)

I'm too modest to volunteer my services.

The bit about Greenspan thinking zero Federal Debt would be bad was from a very short snippet of a Larry King interview I happened to hit upon when channel surfing when Greenspan was out selling his recently published book.

I have no intention of buying Greenspan's book. Perhaps those mindless automatons who still worship at the Project for a New American Century/American Enterprise Institute altar have already purchased the book by Reagan's Great Rudderman who never took his hand off Reagan's tiller and they should read it for themselves.

don't kid yourself, you're as simple minded as they come __________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I live just north of San Diego, California, so it's pretty much warm and sunny every day of the year. In the winter, it might get down to freezing in the mornings, so it's a little tricky to start, but generally my mix is vegetable oil unless I run out. Last fill, I put 2 gallons of petrodiesel in to fill the tank, but that's the first time I've been to the filling station in months. However, with the noticably improved mileage I think I'll keep topping off with petrodiesel since it's not too bad if you're only dropping $10 every couple of weeks... (On top of 100% WVO that's primarily soy.)

Considered multi-tanking it, but where I live there's just no need. I do a pretty thorough job filtering it, and haven't needed to change a fuel filter since I did the conversion. I was running an SVO blend (30-60% at any given time) with petrodiesel before getting the conversion done. The oil is a lot darker than diesel fuel, it's sorta like amber "grade A" maple syrup, but it's otherwise completely transparent. I chalk that up to the obsessive-compulsive 5 micron filter bags hanging into the drums in my shed. (Wow, they get full of some mean sludgy nastiness, not to mention the occasional peanut, greenbean, french fry, and even a screw once!)

-tom!

Today it is $9/gallon in Norway both diesel and Premium You have to be rich.

rd "-->> T.G. Lambach

OK, on Larry King's show, Alan Greenspan makes a comment that zero federal debt would be bad, and that get turned into this:

"The bankers whose friends and associates profit from lending the U.S. government the money when the budget runs a deficit were panicked (Alan Greenspan has written about this) that the Clinton era tax and spending levels, if continued, would result in ZERO debt, something Greenspan saw as potentially disastrous. Yeah - disastrous for all his buddies who make enormous profits loaning our government the same money they should be paying in taxes. "

Let's see what an independent source like the BBC says about where Greenspan stood on reducing the federal debt:

"But in a change of tack last month, the Clinton administrationindicated that it was also prepared to consider using some of thesurplus to reduce the overall government debt. Such a course of action has long been advocated by Alan Greenspan, the influential chairman of the US central bank, the Federal Reserve.

He argues that reducing government debt should take priority over tax cuts, as the move will free funds for private investment and lower government spending."

That summary is consistent with everything I've heard Greenspan say in testimony to Congress, speeches and interviews.

In other words, you've again taken something you don't understand at all, and with jaundiced views, turned it into something it isn't. Greenspan is right that zero federal debt would be a bad thing for a number of reasons. The main one being that the FED buys and sells govt securities in the open market to affect interest rates. If they want to lower rates and stimulate the economy, they buy govt securities. Without those to buy, they would have to find some other financial vehicle, which opens up all kinds of protential problems. If at least part of that debt is used to finance long term capital items, like bridges, roads, or an aircraft carrier, it's no different than a homeowner buying a house with a mortgage. The key here is the relation of the total debt to the size of the US economy. It's still not anywhere near historic levels when compared to the economy, but I agree it would be good for it to be lowered. And Geenspan was always in favor of reducing the present level of Federal debt and less govt spending.

If you bought the book, you might learn something. As for Greenspan's stewardship at the FED, only a tiny minority would bitch about that. At the beginning of his chairmanship, the economy was in a disaster, unemployment was 9%, inflation 7%, and govt bonds were yeilding 18%. He was there with Reagan when all that was reversed through tax cuts and sound monetary policy, resulting in the longest expansion in peace time history.

I'm in the same boat - I'm in Los Angeles. It will drop into the 40's on a regular basis but never less than 60 in my garage.

That's what i was wondering.

I see many posts - both here and on places like benzworld - where they completely deride single-tank systems for using 100% WVO and the cold climates. However, I wanted to hear a first-hand experience from a local who uses either 100% SVO/WVO or a mix.

So you filter your own? Do you collect as well? I'm thinking it would be easier - and more convenient - for me to have it delivered already filtered in 50 gallon containers. I see rates in the middle $2/gallon around here.

My friend did the Lovecraft conversion last year on his 87 300SDL. He ran

100% WVO... without diesel, his mileage is around 20MPG. With diesel he gets 25MPG. However, I think he needs new injectors as his is way over 200,000 miles.

I filter all the oil for him. I finally got it figured out and I filter to 1 Micron. I can do 30 gallons in about 2 hours liesurely. We collect our own oil.

I will convert mine soon. We live in Northern NJ. He ran full WVO in 40 degree... he had a bit of hard time to start but once going, he is fine. I told him repeatedly to fill some regular diesel to thin it out for cold weather... I think he wants to experiement. We also had a hard time filtering the oil but I got it all worked out and fast.

Is there any data on using Kerosene to thin WVO rather than #2 fuel oil? I would think you would need less?

Now you've pushed one of my buttons. We have a taxpayer subsidized ethanol plant in Washington state that does absolutely nothing to mitigate the high price of fuel here because every drop produced is sold in Asia. This is just socialism at a corporate level at consumer expense.

Welcome to the Real-political world. Corporate welfare has been around for a long while. It's the CEO's and not the working mothers that has been pulling at Washington hind teat.

Chip

Kerosene is number 1 diesel which is used in winter. It is thinner than the summer blend. They are in same family... I think kerosene is further processed so not so smelly.

Right, but does it mix well with WVO? I would think you would need less Kerosene to get a start the Diesel? Just a thought.

when are you guys going to get it? the differences in the price of fuel is not caused by differences in the price of oil, oil costs the same for all countries that import oil, the differences in prices is caused by government imposed taxes on fuel, norway has a huge social service, womb to tomb care, free education all funded by taxes on fuel __________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.