Spent ages on the phone to the UK's main supplier of Weber replacement carbs today, only to be told that what I think I have isn't possible. (I reckon I have a MkI Scirocco lump in the Golf, but the MkI Scirocco has a longitudinal engine, rather than transverse)
So, I've taken some snaps, and put them online - hopefully someone can identify it for me:
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I reckon I have a Zenith 2B2 or 2B5 carb...... however, I'm told it's more likely to be a 2E2..... but it's stamped 2B......
Someone must be able to tell me what it is!
Cheers,
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Dan405
...a mystery?
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JackH
"To be, or not to be, that is the question..."
You really need to ascertain *exactly* what lump you have, by sounds of it.
However, the Scirocco and Mk1 Golf IIRC, shared lumps, and I've always been led to believe that the Mk1 Scirocco was heavily based on the Mk1 Golf, so I doubt that the engine would have been mounted round the other way.
You really need to speak to a VW specialist methinks... one that's been around long enough to know the score with regards to the similarities between the two cars, and which will be able to decipher the chassis / engine numbers in order to ascertain exactly what it is you have.
The other possibility of course, is that your engine should have the 2E2, but that the 2B series fitted without modification, or with a manifold change at the same time.
Good luck!
-- JackH
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SteveH
That's the tricky bit. Can't seem to locate the engine numbers.....
ISTR reading that it was, mind.
Aye. See above. Argh!
Possibility...... missing all the good weather for a rag-top, too :-(
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JackH
Oops.
Again I point Sir in the direction of a specialist, who will be able to give you the definitive answer on that score.
If you're stuck, I can point you in the direction of a local one here, who've been about for as long as I can remember.
-- JackH
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Burgerman
Go to scrap yard, find a 38DGAS WEBER.lots of opld V6 fords, etc had them.
They work great on everything from 1.6 fords up to 3.5 rovers...
Looks as if it will amost be a straight swap. It would be faster as well...
So you have an engine that looks like it shouldn't be in your car, and a distinct lack of identification... Dodgy geeeeeeezer :)
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Denley
It's not an old solex, it looks like the pierburg 2E3 as fitted to astra's etc... I had one of these on a polo.
Maybe it is a 2E2, I have the Haynes book of Carbs, I will take a look later.
Andy
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SteveH
Worth a check, I suppose.
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SteveH
Very unlikely - I'll check later.
I have the engine number now.... don't know if engine code FR means anything to anyone, 'cos it's not listed in the early Haynes book :-(
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MrCheerful
replacement
possible.
my p reg scirocco had a cross ways engine, the fr engine was in scirocco/jetta 1.6litre 75 - 84
the audi/vw range use the 2e2 carb at about 200 quid for the weber replacement
mrcheerful
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SteveH
Sorted it now.
'Webcon' got it wrong with the Scirocco engine orientation. Argh!
Anyway, it's an FR engine, 1588cc. Zenith 2B2/5 carb.
Not listed for my year of Golf in the Weber book - but there is a Weber replacement for a 1588cc Golf Auto, on a different year, so I'll order one of those.
Thanks to anyone who chipped in with some info, it motivated me to find that engine number.
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MeatballTurbo
I've seen one fitted to a 1.3 Skoda rapid that was lightened, and balanced, with a 4-2-1 manifold, group B spec system, and a big valve ported head. Went like stink. Was a most fantastic autgrasser.
It won the season in his local league, but was then disqualified. He had blown up the original ropy engine, and had sourced a 135 lump instead of the 136 that was originally in it. And there was officially no 135 Rapid that year in the UK.
Difference between a 135 and a 136. The 135 had lower compression, but mechanically identical, same block, same crank, carb only difference was the head which he had modified anyway. By the time he had had the head skimmed, and the rest done he was actually running far higher compression than the 136 anyway. His engine was within the permitted specs for the class he drove in, but his fellow competitiors just wanted a nice loop hole to hang him from.
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Dave Plowman
They might after re-jetting etc, but that's not for the faint hearted.
Just about every carb is individual to an engine.
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Burgerman
No.
Every carb may be "jetted" a little differently, but most that are around the right size venturi or a little bigger work fine. I have swapped loads.
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Guy King
"Burgerman" mumbled:
How individual do you want it to be!
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Burgerman
I LIKE individual...
The jettings seldom far enough out to make much real difference because any amount of air that gets sucked through regardless of throttle plate position, or rpm it still needs to be "correct" mixture. A carbs just a scent sprayer! Suck harder and you get both more fuel and more air = correct still. And the opposite is true.
You CAN improve the settings with a little rejetting, fuel level adjustment, idle mixture setting, but you can do that on ANY car!
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Dave Plowman
Do your cars ever pass an MOT? ;-)
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