'ere Vamp, so luxury toys for you.

Chavved Toymota saloons.

I have to ask..... why?

Why not. Just like trackday alfas. Or spending the extra on a Brabus/AMG/Carlsson. You can stillonly do 70 in the UK, and you only need to be so comfortable.

Some of them are really nice. Except for the one with 'Fabulous' plastered across the windscreen!

That bit I agree with actually.

Because it is comes down to destroying a car: the front is extreem, makes the car indrivable. The rear with the four tincans, well pathetic really.

Won't even comment on this one: it's just there to annoy StevenH.

You are kidding if you compare those cars with Brabus/ AMG/Carlsson...

Suggestion: get into a Brabus tuned car (please not a Smart) but something with the stroked V8, take it gently to 200 kph and then floor the right pedal. Then you will know what Brabus is...

Hint: when you floor it, be sure the front wheels are straight.

Tom De Moor

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Life isn't all about how well your car handles or how fast it goes :)

Generally, a lot of camber means dead solid, not twitchy. And air ride factory suspension handles nicely.

And while Wald will provide the body kit, and TRD some dress up parts and brakes, Tom's will provide the supercharger, with a mines ECU to deal with the engine.

Yup, I love it, looks alot like a BMW 840 front end, love that snub nose look with small rectangular headlights

Lots of stick on tat, then.

Body kit yes, but hardly call factory motorsport approved brakes, supercharger kit, and mappable ecu as SOT.

'Motorsport Approved' on an LS400?

What a bizarre concept.

Or the Skyline models, or the top spec supra MK4. Or the Chaser.

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Or the Skyline models, or the top spec supra MK4. Or the Chaser.

Not really. The UCF10 Celsior/LS400 is bodily and size wise very similar=20 to a Toyota Chaser or the same era.

Tom's do similar, but they are factory approved and tend to push things=20 further. It is like Hirsch (warrenty approved) and Maptun (not) for Saab. The difference is TRD have been in house factory since the start

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I think the issue was with luxury and sporty SLC/S/M5/M3 style rather=20 than sporty.

The Jcars have always been quick but different.

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Playstation cars.

Very quick and accomplished, but zero character.

You've clearly driven all of them to make an informed judgement then.