Launch technique?

But it's not wheelspin in the normally recognised sense, is it, really.

I do - I've been driving long enough to know how to make a car wheelspin, and how traction control can stop this from happening (unless of course you have no real idea of how to control a car equipped with it), but to be quite honest, I've had enough of 'debating' (if you can call it that, the way you appear to be just using the various threads in here to bolster your own spirits at the expense of anyone who doesn't hold the exact same view point as you) with someone as pig headed - if you kept trying to mock the intelligence of someone in real life to their face when they're trying to have a reasoned debate with you in the same way, I'm pretty certain, sat in a wheelchair or not, they'd be quite tempted to give you a smack in the chops for your trouble.

Even if someone doesn't know as much as you, by talking to them as you do, you do little to make them want to listen to what you have to say, and as such, you're wasting your breath.

It can apply the brakes.

Maybe, but our clutch has survived over fifty drag strip launches without detrimental effect.

Now I'm sure somebody will quip back with "but it's only a 60 bhp / 80 lbsft

Therefore, going on the evidence sat outside our house at the moment, the clutch is stronger than the engine mount.

Given that wheelspin is a skid, yes it is (sorry).

Can and does of course: most use the brakes then reduce torque.

Irrelevant.

Relevant. Ding.

Heh. Never? Ever?

1. Big bang, engine parts chucked out the exhaust.
2. Big bang, drivetrain parts drop out the front of the car.
3. Minor bang, engine rattles about, tear-arses up strip but later discover engine mount has been broken. *cough*

The tread moving relative to the road?

That's pretty much how I use it too. Ignoring a few other aspects that aren't germane.

That'll go some way towards reducing wheelspin, but it can't do it right from a standstill or it'll bog the engine down. Try to use that method to eliminate all wheelspin and every clutch-dump will result in a stall.

The main reason for using the brakes is to apply some counter-torque to a single spinning wheel so the diff can apply some torque to the other wheel. Sort of an electronic LSD effect.

Cheers,

Colin.

tear-arse... ka.... tear-arse... ka....

no, doesn't work in my reality.

Why, what part do you think will fail?

It's more of a semi-cute waddle in mine. And it's definetely not me with the semi* :)

Err no. You show a massive ignorance of almost everything you post about! How do electronics remove the stored flywheel energy.

I await your (rediculous) answer!

I am always polite and helpful, right up to the point someone begins insulting me. From then on I am non too freindly, why should I be? And after listening to some of your rubbish on here I wouldnt BE talking to you face to face since it would be a waste of my time. You are simply incapable of any logic or reasoning.

No he doesn't :)

HTH

Yes some "crap" systems such as on my VW can do that, but again it has to wake up, calculate, and then try to catch it after the event. Those types of systems are really slow needing valves etc to operate and the pads to move etc. I can easily beat it in my van which uses vw's system by mistake just pulling away hard in an auto! Never mind dropping the clutch at 4500... (Actually it hasnt got one but you know what I mean.)

Sophysticated systems control power by removing sparks from odd numbers of firing cycles. But they cant kill inertia. Any more than a brake, clutch, or anything else can. All that stored energy will spin the wheel.

The best system I have is a fully programmable one that Julian Thomas from race logic gave me. It is used extensively in top level auto racing. And it will still allow some wheelspin if you drop the clutch, as it has no option.

But that's what they do.

Yes, there's a trace of spin, but some systems are so crude that the car nearly stalls if you try something too rushed in it.

Others produce wheelspin - no wheelspin - wheelspin - no wheelspin, sounding like ABS.

Yes, sort of; but they do brake a wheelspinning wheel and they do get bogged down.

This is the reason why many systems allow some wheelspin.

ROFL!

Relatively speaking of course! :)