You need a better calculator. If you're doing a 40 mile round trip commute for 5 days + 10 miles personal use, that's 210 miles/week. Call it 250 to make the sums easier. Your 2.5 quid extra for 2p/litre extra implies you're using 125 litres/week, which is 2 miles/litre, which suggests you're driving Conor's truck rather than your normal car.
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AstraVanMan
I notice your use of the word "properly" - surely the W12 Toerag is the way to go. ISTR seeing the engine in a little glass box at the motor show at the NEC ages back and an info panel that showed the torque curve. A seriously large amount of torques - flat from tickover to not far off redline. Now *that's* a proper engine.
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Pete M
I didn't know they did a W12 Toerag, but now you've pointed it out, you are, of course, utterly correct.
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AstraVanMan
Heh. This PC's a bit slow and s**te at the moment (and could do with replacing with something better), and I was going to say "can't be arsed to google it as this PC's crap", but I did, and yes, apparently they do.
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Steve Firth
Diesel is now £1.30, I dread to think how much heating oil is going to cost.
F*ck me, 63p/litre. Ouch.
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Pete M
There'll still be the sound of at least one V8... :-)
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Elder
Well, what ever the sums (I had them somewhere). It is still costing me =A310 a day (just under). =A350 of fuel going in, 2*=
*=20 miles a week (low 200's). 10 miles of personal driving is maximum.=20 Rarely drive at the weekend other than Tesco for shopping, petrol and=20 recycling.
The biggest problem is the constant 5mph crawl up the motorway, or today=20 as they closed the M56 for a police incident and it was stop start not=20 even registering on the speedo. Still it is better than taking the M62->
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Depresion
They didn't make a lot of them.
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Albert T Cone
Um. 210 miles, you previously said, I think, that you were getting about 30-ish mpg, (+/- 20%: who cares, this is back-of-the-envelope), so
7 gallons -> 32 litres, so about 60p per week extra, or £30 a year.
Prices for unleaded have apparently gone up 17% in the last year, so your 11k miles, using about 1700 litres, cost about £1700 last year and about £290 more this year.
Not scary, it just has a feeling of inevitability to it. Best guess at the minute seems to be that we passed peak oil about 2-4 years ago, so production capacity is dropping but consumption worldwide is ramping up. Within some finite time scale there will not be capacity to meet demand and prices will *rocket*. So, basically if anyone ever wants to own something with a PeteM style 'proper' mahoosive engine, do it now...
I have started to arrange things to avoid a dependency on oil, but it isn't easy, 'cos damn near EVERYTHING depends on it, and I'm not exactly green-fingered.
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Elder
I've got a basil plant I've managed not to kill. Unfortunatly it was delivered to a lidl shop in a big truck.
Yu know those pots of living herbs that normally you take off what you want for the first meal, the bloody thing dies.
Well this one showed signs of life, so I watered it, repotted it and bloody hell, more leaves. Getting proper bushy and nearly too big for the kitchen window sill now.
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Depresion
Production isn't dropping.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Seems the real shortage is of the low sulphur stuff needed for diesel and aviation fuel. Which our refineries are geared up for. Think I heard on the radio today that Nigeria are stockpiling the 'heavy' stuff as they can't sell it.
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Elder
I'm waiting for the email "kindlyness Sir Robson Carl =09I am the former head of the Nigerian supreme heavy oil cartel. I was recently deposed and all my stockpiled oil impounded. If you will send me only =A39000 pounds to cover the bond for its release,= =20 I will have a tanker deliver it to nearest dockyard at your convenience Yours in God and upto my neck in dictators Yabu Dabu Du"
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Albert T Cone
Production _capacity_ is, or at least the majority of the models suggest that it is. Either way, it takes about 6 years to get a new find on tap, and there haven't been any significant new finds within the last 6 years. It is no coincidence that production is ramping up on the tar-sands in Alberta and similar, even though it makes no financial sense *at the minute*. All the new oil and gas to be found is from expensive sources. Whichever way you look at it, oil is going to get more expensive...
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