Which biggish 4x4?

Peter James classic insurance. He was the James part of Footman James, but moved on when FJ got bought out.

That quote for for social, domestic, pleasure and occasional commute too.

They all have overdrive so that's nothing. And 92 is waaayyyy too old. I wouldn't touch anything before '98.

He's a liar.

About 10p.

I thought that.

I think you're being generous. I did an ebay scan and they really are worth precisely f*ck all, aren't they?

Yup. I had a "discussion" with someone on eBay trying to sell a brown

2001 Exploder with 25,000 miles on the clock. They wanted £3,500 for it which is joke money. They also invited offers so I offered an off-the wall, over the top price of £1900, more than the vehicle is worth. The seller was "insulted by my offer" and declared that they would not sell for less than £3,500. I pointed them to Glass's guide and they sent angry emails. It didn't sell.

Later I found they had rejected an offer from a muppet of £3k, that's more than the dealer forecourt price, yet the plonker had rejected the offer.

Mine only drops to 25 when I'm towing .. though mine's a manual, but I've removed the egr, de-cat exhaust, removed centre silencer so released more power, better combustion and better breathing! ... and I don't hang about. It also runs at about 1/3rd Tesco's finest veg oil .. somewhere between 54p litre when on offer and 87p when not on offer.

I have no clue about rear seats, never having used them other than for carrying passengers from whom I've never asked how they feel! Indeed, last month I removed them, dunno if they're to be replaced yet .. ;)

Heh, I'm on third set of BFG AT's and sell them on as sets at about 25k .. so whilst they cost £400+ for all four, last set I got £250 back selling them on ebay. Doing that I see no need to buy cheaper, inferior or re-treaded tyres.

The last 20k miles have been mostly off-roading in Wales, Derbyshire and North Yorks, and obviously the road time in between .. ;)

Patrol or Pajero. Probably the Pajero. Musso are shit, I've owned the petrol and the diesels are worse. The Bighorn diesels are unreliable too. The Patrols are great but thirsty. Rangies are unreliable and thirsty. Pajero is the pick of the bunch.

Fraser

Stuff me, 25mpg on diseasel? What a shed.

I'm getting 21mpg on petrol and fuel it on LPG so I get 42 miles for the price of a gallon of diesel.

Personally, I'd rather remove my eyeballs with toothpicks than drive a Pajero.

Yeah, it is. But owes me nothing and repays me a lot of fun.

When towing .. When driving normally we get between 30 and 35 mpg depending what we're doing. Off-roading it's about 30 mpg, on-road motorway 35ish, around the local area about 32ish.

If we count the veg oil at 84p a litre (most expensive) then it's pretty cheap still .. When we get it at 54p a litre it's very cheap.

Why? The older ones drive well and are less truck like and more carlike than the other jap stuff in their class.

I drove an 09 Pajero a few months ago and found it pretty damn awful.

I forgot to mention that a Prado is probably better than everything mentioned and my pick of the bunch for large 4 x 4s.

Fraser

You could get a fair amount of stuff in one of these, and get yourself a new career at the same time...

Not sure about offroading, mind.

Damn, someone beat me to it without realising. If the pair of them went for anything the right side of £2k then it'd be a pretty decent deal for someone with enough space to keep them both.

Oh Naturally I did look at Corpse shifters first, but nothing caught my eye as being particularly distinctive.