r.a.d. Observation

What? no guts to cross post it CJ? Don't worry, I took care of it for you. I'm sorry that I upset you so much pointing out the emperor has no clothes.

Your kind sickens me. You sit there and just live with each loss of liberty in this nation, not just the games of driving, but all the games and scams that are run on us as a people. You're kind is bigger cancer than the evil of the "owners" as you called them could ever be.

insecurity at it's finest.

I am not personally taking credit for anything. JCWCONSULT (Mr. Walker) was very much involved in the speed limit issue in his home state of MI. Daniel Stern has been involved in lighting issues for years. ( I was a member of a group against DRLs back then, and between that group and alerts from Mr. Stern put in a couple comments to the USDOT regarding idiotic proposed regulations. So did other r.a.d regulars) Many r.a.d regulars are members of the NMA, the organization responsible for ending the NMSL, which of course allowed for speed limits in excess of

55/65mph in your state. Various regulars have written their state representives regarding keep-right-except-to-pass laws as well. (that includes myself). You can search google groups for the details if you're really interested.

Just one small part of a much larger picture. Of course as you have freely posted you rely on us 'geeks' to do the work of a free society.

Just wanted you to insult people to their 'face' so to speak.

Actually the precursor to the NMA I believe was involved in lifting the original "hard" 55 MPH NMSL and allowing 65 MPH Interstate speed limits, although I wasn't a member back then.

nate

You do realize, don't you, that it's "geeks, dorks and nerds" that spend time sitting behind their desks crunching numbers and/or at dynos, flow benches, and test tracks observing minutae that make your vehicle what it is? Without them, what would your car be like?

Of course, without another subset of "geeks, dorks and nerds" you wouldn't be able to post your message; there would be no Internet, Usenet, WWW, or even BBSs without the people that made it possible. The very people you ridicule are responsible for so many of the things in life that you take for granted. Now the question is, what do *you* do for a living that contributes so much more to society than the jobs only filled by "geeks, dorks, and nerds?"

I don't know what the hell happened, when did it become uncool to be intelligent? Without scientists, engineers, computer guys, and other "dork" types we'd all be subsistence farming, I guess you're OK with that though.

nate

...talk nerdy to me...

No, I'm not.

I said no such thing, however, it bears some thought. Let's see, in my role as a schoolyard bully (your input there), it is my job to administer Atomic Wedgies and steal your lunch money. In keeping with that, I guess letting the geeks do the work while I reap the benefits might be a good thing.

Personal thanks to anyone involved in keeping the the fast lane clear while I peel the paint off the cars in the #2 lane.

If you used Google properly you would have discovered that this is probably the most futile gesture imagineable.

But they are not whining paranoid schizophrenics that tell me society is going to bite me in the ass if I don't sympathize with them. Get it?

See above.

I'm semi-retired from the auto security industry, where I was from its infancy. You know, the people that made it possible to actually keep your vehicles in your possession so you could drive around and whine about traffic rules.

Funny thing. I was one of the guys who dissected new cars, analyzed and recorded wiring circuits pertinent to our industry, recorded the findings into a resource database, wrote installation manuals and magazine articles, taught seminars to sales and installation personnel around the country, and helped troubleshoot installs on the manufacturer's tech line. And yet I've never been a geek, dork, OR a nerd.

I spent 13 years at the top of my class in private school. Funny thing, I've never been a geek, dork, OR a nerd.

Enlighten yourself. Geekism, dorkerosity, and nerdness are all personality afflictions. They are instantly recognizable, and are not tied whatsoever to occupations, hairstyles, or choice of adult beverage. Perhaps it's something you might ponder for a while.

Why do I get the feeling you have your pud in your hand?

I don't think they have the stones to ramp up like in the old days. Ah, whatever happened to good old Schmoopie and clan?

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Well at least you admit being a troll.

It really wasn't all that long ago when Claybrookian logic still ruled, and passing lane blocking was considered good. Lane blocking was an accepted 'reality', just like under posted speed limits. Of course with proper study and thusly being able to form well supported arguments for lane discipline, keep right except to pass laws have been spreading one state to the next. It wasn't that long ago that KRETP was ridiculed and attacked much like you and others do to the 85th percentile method today.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

You have no shame or honor, so I suppose so.

You never know what will strike a nerve here. This ceased being a Mustang tech group long ago and now is more of a social club. I'm here to answer the wayward tech question but mostly pop in to shoot the shit if anyone is game.

Society evolves; pity you didn't. :0)

Nothing there.

Uh, doofus, who cross-posted me into rad? Damn, I think it was you. Did you really think that the omnipotent CobraJet would run and hide?

Uh-oh, you used the D word. Isn't discipline ingrained in the philosophy of obedience? Isn't that something you yourself have a deep-seated issue with? And yet, you want to subject drivers to lane discipline. Hmmmm.

I've never attacked the 85th percentile method. I don't know what it is, nor do I care. This whole exchange is about you and your paranoia.

Our society is notorious for creating new truths. For the new truth to be self-evident, the old truth must cease to be so. So, it appears that old Shopy left out the 4th stage: All truths must have a freshness date on them.

This is Usenet. Shame and honor have had no place here since its inception. If this is news to you, well, gosh, , I really don't know what to say. What a minute, did I just say that?

You know me. I can find nerves real quick if I want to sustain this. But I really don't have the time. Nice to keep the fangs honed just a little, though.

Evolving implies moving forward. Rolling back how society functions legally to the 12th century isn't.

Irrelevant. A troll is a troll be it one group or thousands.

Now I have to explain basic language to you?

At least you admit your ignorance and that you engage in ad hominem. However, the exchange began because I mentioned the negative consquences of under posted speed limits.

'speed kills' has been that moldy thing ignored in the back of the fridge for all too long.

Well, it appears you have admitted you have no redeaming qualities. There is only but one thing left to do. I think you know what that is.

CobraJet wrote in news:100520071109146898% snipped-for-privacy@skin.molt:

It's a group full of idiots, as you correctly pointed out. misc.transport.road is much better.

Not irrelevant. Your rad boys would not be responding to me if they could not see my posts. You can't get ticketed if the car is in the garage. Doofus.

Translation: CJ busted me so now I have to come up a nonsensical reply.

And I use condoms at that.

No, the exchange began when you interjected your personal experiences with the police into a thread about a kid's fatality. How many times to I have to bring that up?

The Earth was flat at one time. Did you know that? Yep, it was self-evident. True story.

I sure do. I need to go put my 12-gauge in the car. god forbid one of you rad freaks crosses my path and rants at me for some imagined traffic faux pas, and I am without the means to decapitate your empty head on the spot.

Happy Motoring!!!!!

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in rec.autos.driving:

What would you expect from a troll whose sole contribution is Ad Hominem attacks?

That's because it was a kindergarten, and you were the top of the class only in height.