FAP particular filer

you will also need the diagnostic equipment to tell the ecu you have refilled it unless of course you simply want to supply your own

no offence.. but you sure it has a p.e.f. on it? a 406 2.0 hdi dw10ated 110 (rhz) in chassis number don't have 'em on. earliest fitted was 607 dw12 and

Hi,

My car has the DW10ATED engine with 107 HP,

And yes it has the particular filter, I allready changed it once.

But insted of driving 80.000 KM before changing it, the additive tank was refilled af 100.000 KM and the fiter was replaced at 130.000 KM.

But why does the ECU need to now how much additiv you added to the tank?

Does anyone have experience with refilling the addivite tank?

TIH

Hi,

My car has the DW10ATED engine with 107 HP,

And yes it has the particular filter, I allready changed it once.

But insted of driving 80.000 KM before changing it, the additive tank was refilled af 100.000 KM and the fiter was replaced at 130.000 KM.

But why does the ECU need to now how much additiv you added to the tank?

Does anyone have experience with refilling the addivite tank?

Must be a odd-ball then cos i work on these bags of shit every day of my life ,whats in the chassis number is it rhz?,I wouldn't moan as you have done well to get 100 grand out of it.you ARE supposed to replace the p.e.f. then top-up the tank AT THE SAME TIME.E.c.u needs to know how much cerine is in the tank so in turn then it will know how much has been deposited in the p.e.f.(ive never known cerine run out b4 the service life of the filter has) sounds like you keep a insanely small amount of derv in the tank or you have a problem

Hi Mark,

The no. is VF38BRHSF 81517234.

Another thing i think you can help me with:

ok, today the car had starting problems again, after cranking the starter for 3 minutes with out starting, then I disconnected the x3 connecter to the pressure sensor on the Rail it self.

Then I tried to start the engine again and it started after trying for 4 sec. almost a normal start, but it was like the engine had a hard time gaining rpm.

Then the engine management light ofcause came on, and the display said ?Anti Pollution Fault?, while the engine was running I connected the red x3 connector to the pressure sensor again. I then drove the car non stop for about 200KM with out any problems, driving at about 140km/h on the highway.

I the reset the engine management warning, by disconnecting the battery for about 1 hour, and the connecting it again and starting the car without any problem, and with not engine management fault.

Infact I changed the pressure sensor on the rail just one week ago, so I don?t thin it has anything to do with this sensor.

Mark you wrote earlier, that when I disconnected the connector to the Rail sensor, the ECU would adjust the injection duration, what else could effect the duration?

TIH

Hi again,

I just installed a new fuel low pressure pump, without any effect on the starting problems.

I think there is a faulty sensor or Vacuum unit, but what can I do?

TIH

I think this particular filter is called a 'particulate' filter...

DW10ATED

Hi Mark,

Thanks.

The bm34 where is it located on the car?

I can see on the electrical diagram, in my haynes manuel, that there should be at "Engine Management multifunction relay" (it should be a 15 pole brown relay).

But where the f* is it installed? maybe the DW10ATED does note have one?

Maybe the bm34 = to whate haynes calles the "Engine Management multifunction relay"

Do you want me to spray diesel in the air intake?

br. TIH

hi Tih H ,the 406 you have is multiplexed mate. your right the bm34 has taken the place of the 15 pin relay .the bm34 is located right next to the battery and has a black lid on it its around 8" long by approx 5" wide .whip the top off it and it will have a green,black,grey plugs on it (and some others!) and various fuses. if you can wait a day or 2 i'll get you the peugeot wiring diagram file. speak soon mark

I forgot to mention yes when the vehicle doesn't start ,try EASYSTART not diesel (LOL) in the air inlet.. as you probably know yourself you can get it from many motor factor places. al the best mark

Hi,

Ok, I checked out the bm34 visually yesterday.

The print of the bm34 is covered with silicon, but on the backside of the print I could not see any visual damage. It is not easy to get a look on the print from the top, because the fuse connectors are part of the top plastic cover. It appears that there is several relay's and transistors installed on the print.

Please get the diagram. It would be cool if you also could get some information on how I can test the unit. I have a feeling this is where my problem is.

Mark do you know what the price of a new bm34 is? Many be I should try renewing it?.

It appears to me, that occasionally the engine start timing is lost, I can se that the bm34/15pin brown relay, controllers the High pressure regulator valve on the high pressure pump, it also controllers the ?inertia switch? (what is that?, and where is it located?) and the low pressure fuel pump.

Is there anything that controls (or could block) the air supply to the engine during startup?

br TIH

Hi mark,

Do you know, has there been any Engine ECU Software updates to my cars engine since it was produced in June 2002.

Maybe it needs a software update, to the newest version?

br. Thomas

Hi,

This morning the car would not start again (ambient temperature about 8 c), after turning the starter for 1 minute, I injected some Diesel Quick start in the Air intake.

Then I tried again, and the engine started after 2 seconds.

What can I conclude from this?

Is my High-pressure pump weak?

TIH

Sorry for delay in geting back been mega busy.yes it may well be a weak h/p pump ,you'll need to do it quite a few times though to be 100% it is . if you want any wiring diagrams put your e-mail address on and i can e-mail you some.A software download will only alter the software characteristics to improve running of the vehicle and in other cases mostly if its in a recall to help stop vehicle cutting out etc.. . a download will not cure your problem obviously. all the best mark

Hi Mark,

The e-mail is.

tih @ dou . dk

This morning i had to use the "Diesel Quick start" again, and the car started without any diff.

This weekend I drove the car from Denmark to Zurich and back again, it will go on the german autobann at about 170 km/h for 5 hours without any signes og problems.

There is no lack of power problems at all.

I covered 2500 km with a aveage of 14,5 km / liter fuel, not bad with that kind og speed.

The problem is only there during statup, could it be a Air leak in the fuel system? that only is there when the car and hoses are cold.

What else could I do, to verify that it is a HP problem?.

br. TIH

Hi just gonna send you a little wiring diagram as a example.If you need a specific one/sensor tell me as they are all individual.You will need to load the prog svg viewer first which is in the folder im gonna send you .Sorry my mistake i thought you were english!, i was right it would be an import to me a left hand drive here's the spec of your car>>>heated seats electric mirrors electric rear windows presence of particle filter rain sensor electric seats with memory sun roof fold-back mirrors cruise control satellite navigation system option front and rear screen wash HIFI (JBL) amplifier present twin-speed fan present door sill illumination odometer ABS connected by wire gearbox speed sensor alarm option CD changer option

all the best mark

Hi Mark,

I need the electrical diagram that shows the all sensors etc. that involves in the fuel supply.

including the bm 34.

br. Thomas

MARK BANKS PEUGEOT MASTER TECHNICIAN wrote:

Hi Mark,

Ok, now the starting problem is not periodic anymore.

Every morning when I start the car with a cold engine, It will not fire.

During the last couple of days I used the ?Quick start? in the air intake, and the car started ok.

But today I tried something different.

As you know, I thought the there was an Air leak in the fuel system, and I wanted to verify this theory.

First I tried to starting the car without any special help, after 2 minutes without result I stopped trying.

I disconnected the pressure sensor one the common rail, and tried to crank the engine again. The car started with some difficulties, slowly gaining rpm. but else It was running ok. After 1 min with the engine running in idle I switched it off.

If there was any air in the system it now should have gone.

I then reconnected the connector to the rail pressure sensor, and tried to start the engine again. This time the car refused to start. I cranked the engine for 1 minute without results.

To verify that it would start again with the pressure sensor disconnected, I then disconnected It again. Then the F* car fired again slowly gaining rpm while the car was running in idle I reconnected the rail pressure sensor connector and took the car for a drive until the engine reached normal operation temperature (The car had no signs of engine problems during the ride).

Now I switched the car off, waited for 10 minutes, and tried to start the engine again. The F* engine started like I was brand new.

So my conclusion:

It can not be an air leak in the fuel system.

When I disconnect the rail pressure sensor, the ECU uses a default value for another sensor that has a fault in cold condition.

Or

Could the High pressure pump be weak?, if so would the engine show other symptoms?

I still don?t get any error codes from the ECU, regarding cause of the fault.

Mark what could the problem be?

Br. Thomas

Tih H wrote: