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Toyota's feet in the fire...

Another recall, don't know how many units it affects, but just the fact there is yet another recall does not bode well for the automaker.

If Toyota were smart, they'd go back to the way they were making cars in the 80's to get the confidence in their brand back again. Of course, this is going cost more per unit to make each car.

But Toyota is also not in a position to raise prices right now, either. The perception among Joe Six-packers is going to be, "They're selling JUNK, and they're going to RAISE prices?!?!"

Of course, Government Motors got away with this for years, because they could. Toyota in the US, although they sell a lot of cars here and have a large following it still struggling to be the #1 seller in the US, and all of thisis not going to fare well for them.

Look for bargains coming from Toyota again...

If you already have a Toyota, don't expect to sell it at the premiums their used cars were going for before.

Reply to
Hachiroku
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I wish they'd do a Celica like the last one. I just missed buying one. I know the torqueless thing was something of a chore to dive but it fit me like a glove. Curiously, the one I test drove had a major CLUNK from the front somewhere. Dealer seemed to think that was normal for a Celica so I passed. Maybe that experience was a harbinger of things to come. Anyway, if I wanted the Camry/Corolla experience, I'd just buy the real thing - a Buick.

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FridoLay

They had a RED! GT and a silver GTS on the local lot. I took the red GT out ($12,990) and passed on the GTS ($17,995) because of the $5000 difference. I got to drive a couple GTS models while I was working for a dealer. WOW!!

The GT had a kind of quirky feel in the rear, and I pointed it out. She said she'd have it looked over and get back to me.

They looked it over, fixed it an RAISED THE PRICE $1,000!!! $14,000 for a 6 year old car w/58,000 miles. NOPE!

I went to the nearest (42 miles away) Scion dealer and picked up a 1 year old tC w/11,000 on it for $15,000.

I HATE THE SEATING POSITION!!!!!!!!!

Yup...the Celica fit like a glove...

Reply to
Hachiroku

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Perhaps that's because the Scion is marketed for teenagers, keeps them out of the real car. Teens are more flexible than you or I.

Reply to
Clive

Yeah, the one I almost bought was a loaded silver GTS. I wish I'd ordered one the next year because they offered HID headlights as an option. That was the last year. It would've been nice to get one without that foolish wing but I don't think you could do that. It's really dicey buting a used one because the GTSs have sually been molested by a ricer ot two. You'd think the Civic SI would be a similar fit and feel but it's not. Antway, if I absolutely knew the history, I'd go for a used GTS but I'm not very trusting. I think they did really stupid stuff with the GT like drum rear brakes and no rear sway bar, which might've been what you felt. I've seen a few automatic GTs around - talk about ball-ess!

Reply to
FridoLay

The Scion I rode in felt like an orange crate with wheels stapled to the sides.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

No! It's like sitting at a kitchen table!

I LIKE the semi reclined position in my Supra, Celica, Corolla! Driving while sitting at a desk SUCKS!

Reply to
Hachiroku

We're talking Scions, not Skodas.

Reply to
Hachiroku

I know. A Skoda would probably ride better then a Scion.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

lame...

Reply to
Hachiroku

Skodas are frequently used as taxis around hear, according to Which? They're the most reliable of all the VW brands.

Reply to
Clive

Hey, if you like the way a buckboard rides that's fine with me.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

I'm beginning to wonder if you know what a car is...

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Hachiroku

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