Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.

If you do, maybe we can get together for a spot of tea or something.

That tax is passed by elected representatives, and signed by an elected executive.

I don't know of any state that taxes property in another state.

Yep, me too. On both counts.

Cathy

That works. I'll let you know.

I live in MN lakes country where about 2/3 of the property is seasonal. Those of us who live here all year get a "homestead exemption" which reduces our property tax by 50%. Moreover, as MN residents we get a percentage of that remainder back from the state. Non resident's don't qualify. Neat, huh? We make the rules, they maintain the roads. Is this a great world or what?

I live in Arizona, where a lot of the property is seasonal too. Voting laws in the country are that those who live in an area get to vote in that area; if someone chooses to own property that is not their primary residence, that's their choice. No one is forcing them to do so.

For that matter, anytime you buy something and pay sales tax outside of the area where you live, you're paying taxes that you weren't represented for, but it's your choice to buy there.

Exactly. Whenever one chooses to reside in the legal jurisdiction of another they find themselves taxed without representation, as was the case when North America was divided into legal jurisdictions of England, France and Spain.

Note that in my property tax example those living outside the jurisdiction aren't simply paying the same tax those who live within the jurisdiction but instead more than twice as much. It's quite a stretch to compare that with non-residents and residents paying the same sales tax.

In 1773 those who complained of taxation without representation were not forced to live in a British jurisdiction. In 2009, those who complain of taxation without representation in my jurisdiction aren't forced to own property here. Distinction without a difference. Taxation without representation in both cases.

No, not like that case. In the case of the colonists, they were taxed where they lived by a government that was elsewhere, and that they had no representation in. In the case of property tax that we're discussing, the property is not where they live.

About the only people in the United States who have a legitimate claim of taxation without representation are those who live in Washington DC.

So get rid of the homestead exemption.

Why? Makes us feel like a king!

See your Chrysler dealer. Or wait for one of them Chinese cars.

Maybe he lives in Washington DC. I say we give them at least a Rep.

Whenever you are taxed by a jurisdiction over which you have no influence you are taxed without representation. It's that simple. It's common. Sales tax is another good example. Buy a lollipop in another state and you will be taxed without representation. Buy a car in that state, however, and you will be taxed in your own jurisdiction. See? Size matters.

Well, you can only be a resident of one state. Even though the properties are seasonally used, it doesn't mean the owner can't be a resident of MN and vote. Of course, if he owns property in another state, he can't be a voting resident there. The property tax does create a situation where one could be taxed without representation in that district. Of course, the same is true with sales tax.

Another distinction is that the part-time MN residents could declare that their primary residence and vote there even if they can't qualify for the exemption. Another point is that the taxes being paid by the part time residents are paying for roads and other infrastructure where they own property. A lot different from having all the money go some place you may never have been.

Was' real gripe about lack of representation should be that his Governor is refusing to seat his elected Senator.

Well, assuming it isn't a new rule, the owners knew/should have known about it when they bought the property.

School is out on what Pawlenty will do since he can't bless Franken until the appeals process has run it's course. He wants to be the Republican presidential candidate in 2012 so he just might say he's waiting to see if Coleman appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court. If he does that, he will have served his last term as anything in Minnesota. We're sick of this crap.