Whiners about 35 MPG

That's about the dumbest financial advice anyone could give.

On Sep 22, 11:26 am, bwilson4web wrote: . . .

The new, super-sized Prius is coming out next month and it very likely that dealers may want to move their inventory. There is some evidence of that on Ebay but there are other Prius sources, salvage rebuilders:

On the East Coast, TaylorAutomotive and on the west coast, Lucious Garage and ArtsAutomotive. There are a boat-load of options just a click and call away.

Now a lot of folks have gone with radiator blocks and engine block heaters. I use both and they are effective. But since I have an 2003, NHW11, I also use a careful, warm-up protocol for the first mile or two which is almost as effective as a block heater.

All of these are the "low hanging fruit" to solve a 35 MPG problem. Still, you know, horse, water, drink . . .

Bob Wilson

My post had nothing to do with MPG, I get close to 30 combined and over 30 highway with a '97 Lumina and its EPA MPG ratings are roughly half those of the NHW20. Sure there are things that are improved on the ZVW30 mechanically, but I don't like the aesthetics of it, I dislike the exterior now, I HATE the suspended arch inside, I HATE the LCD MFD being replaced my the VFD MID, and I hate the new implementation of SKS. I also don't like ORVR being used instead of the bladder, ORVR is OK until the filter plugs with dust (speaking of an '05 Impala here), then you can't fill up properly. At least the bladder only has issues when it is cold or on certain pumps.

IMO they should have offered an NHW20ish model that has the new goodies added without the silliness, IE the radar assisted cruise, EV ECO and PWR buttons, ETC.

How does it differ from 2009?

ORVR?????

NHW20 either had SKS or it didn't, if it did there were black lock buttons on the outside of the front doors and the hatch. ZVW30 has a reduced SKS that only works on the driver's door, plus the normal version, depending on the vehicle package.

Onboard refueling vapor recovery.

On Sep 23, 3:04 pm, "Daniel who wants to know" wrote: . . .

We had a '91 Camry that delivered a solid 32 MPG but after it was lost in accident, the replacement 2003 Prius has delivered 52 MPG from 2005- current.

One unexplored possibility is driving the car in "B" instead of "D" which also drives the mileage down, substantially.

It might be interesting to instrument rental Prius and record the driving profile including GPS data. Then we might be able to figure out the 5%.

Bob Wilson