620 SDi

|| Hi all || || I have recently acquired a 1997 620 SDi (last car broke! bugger) || || I have to say its a nice motor, not really being a fan of Rover up || to now. || || There are the usuall niggly, different car problems to sort and || thats where i seek advice : || || 1. What dod i use to re-stick the High Level Brake light back to the || rear window sglass, where it belongs?

GlassBond or equivalent if it direct to the glass, or double sided mirror pads cut to shape

|| 2. the Air Con ins't working, does it just need a re gas? how can i || tell? when the car is idling and i hit the sircon button, the tacho || stays the same, should the revs not increase a little?

I have a very good fridge repairer near me who recharges car systems for a lot less than the 'specialist' car aircon companies. When the compressor starts to work hard the revs cna change because of the extra load on the engine, A few people I know won't run their aircon because it costs too much extra infuel? || || 3. It appears that i have lost (or someone has swipe, as i'm not || convinced they just fall off) the alloy wheel center from the || passenger side rear wheel, Are they expensive to replace? || || 4. Should i have a Red key for the immobilizer on this car?

No if you remote fails there is a 4 digit code you enter by the drivers door lock

Des

On 21/08/2004 22:11:06, in alt.autos.rover, Vertuas licked his pencil and scribbled in message

The stuff that fixes rear view mirrors. Make sure the glass and the brake light are really clean first.

My a/c fans make a distinct noise when the a/c is switched on. The revs drop slightly too. If the pump and fans are not working check the fuses etc and proceed from there. Fuixing these types of problems can be a tiny bit expensive. If the pump and fans work, check under the bonnet on the offside inner wing. There should be a metal cylinder set end down into the wing. It is about the same size as an ignition coil and has a single pipe going to the top. In the top is a small glass window. When the a/c is running on low gas the window stays cloudy. When the a/c is off or fully gassed, the window is clear. (this is why the pumps and fans need to be working first!)

If you have the system regassed make sure the gas man checks for leaks with his little electronic sniffer. Mine ran for 5 years before needing gassing.

Depends on where you get it from, nudge, nudge etc. For a new center your local Rover dealer is your wallet emptying 'friend'.

I have one for mine. As far as Iknow this is needed for setting up new keys to the immobiliser and such other stuff.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies guys.

From what you said, i'm not convinced that the air con is working at all, when i hit the button, i don't notice any change in sound from the engine compartment, nor is there any change to the engines rpm.

The reason i as about the Red key key is that i read in the handbook that i should have on, but i don't, i have two keys with the car so it won't be an issue until i need a replacement, not worth the expence for now.

As for wheel centers, are there any other (legitimate) sources of these parts, thent may be cheaper that my rover dealer, or should i just invest in a small screwdriver? :0))

Cheers

Vertuas

Re, air con, things to check.

Make sure there is a belt around the drive pully. Not sure about the engine type but some engines have a seperate belt drive to the aircon pump. The belt may have rotted and dropped off.

If the belt is there, check that (a) the belt actually is fixed to the shaft, (b) the shaft and pully turn freely and that the shaft has not seized and the belt is just skidding around the pully.

Finally, when the aircon button is pressed, with the fan control in any position but off, there should be a click as the magnet valve engages. No click, no air con, and its often a common fault that the magnet valve has stuck.

PDH

I just got a small block of wood, painted it black, and wedged it under the light. It's never moved since, and it's totally invisible. Failing that, you just need a glass bonding kit from your local car place - the same as you'd use to stick the rear-view-mirror to the windscreen.

Maybe.

You can't.

Take it to an AirCon specialist, and pay them to tell you what it needs. Regas is only around one hour's labour.

Not if it's not working. In any case, they won't increase noticably.

No idea. Get a price from your local Rover dealer.

Yep.

Tell them to go and get a clue.

Firstly, modern AirCon systems use *less* fuel than having the window(s) open.

Secondly, AirCon systems die through lack of use. If they don't use it regularly, then the seals will dry out, and the system will be shafted.

Thirdly, AirCon is by far the most effective way to demist your windows - you don't have to use it to blow cold air.

Er, yes he should. Late 96 onwards get the revised security system, and should have a Red key.

Yep. But without the red key, he can't replace the failed remote !

M Pitt"

You need to take it to a specialist.

If you don't have it, there's nothing you can do anyway. Missing Red keys can't be replaced without replacing the entire immobiliser ECU at huge cost. Hopefully your fobs won't die :)

Phone your dealer and ask them. They're not gonna be more than a few quid.

On 24/08/2004 08:58:37, in alt.autos.rover, Nom licked his pencil and scribbled in message

|| Thanks for the replies guys. || || From what you said, i'm not convinced that the air con is working at || all, when i hit the button, i don't notice any change in sound from || the engine compartment, nor is there any change to the engines rpm. || || The reason i as about the Red key key is that i read in the handbook || that i should have on, but i don't, i have two keys with the car so || it won't be an issue until i need a replacement, not worth the || expence for now. || || As for wheel centers, are there any other (legitimate) sources of || these parts, thent may be cheaper that my rover dealer, or should i || just invest in a small screwdriver? :0)) || || Cheers || || Vertuas

ELECTRICAL DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION 3 Replacement parts There are two versions of immobiliser control unit: Type 1 is for 1.8, 2.0 & 2.3 PGM-Fi models. Type 2 is for 2.0 Turbo petrol and Diesel models. THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. Problem. Parts required TestBookRequired Red key is lost. Immobiliser control unit and key set YES ALL Black keys are lost. Immobiliser control unit and key set YES Immobiliser antenna has failed. Immobiliser antenna NO Immobiliser control unit has failed. Immobiliser control unit and key set YES ALL keys are lost .Steering lock and immobiliser control unit and key set YES Faulty ECM ECM YES NOTE: If the customer wants to retain single key operation of all locks, a new door lock set will also be necessary.

From The Rover manual

Des